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JKR has no fucks left to give. Although she would express it much better

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bellinisurge · 25/04/2022 16:47

I love "I don't give a fuck" version of JK Rowling. She's on Twitter just now (ish) obviously praising Allison Bailey and generally supporting Lesbian Visibility Week for actual lesbians.

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1518611202934509569?s=21&t=SNCKY7krX4pNL0MyXKTHdg

She's such a tonic

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Popeyr · 25/04/2022 18:37

No, I'm saying that some of the people she's signal boosted on Twitter are active campaigners against same sex marriage and gay parents adopting.

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 25/04/2022 18:38

Popeyr · 25/04/2022 18:21

First Caroline Farrow and now Baroness Nicholson, she sure is friendly with women that really, really don't like lesbians.

Oooh! Wrong kind of lesbians?

Woman who supports women and womens rights whilst maintaining her faith based belief that abortions, same sex marriages are sinful?

Woman who supports lesbian women in their choices whilst maintaining her faith based belief that same sex marriage is outside the remit of the church?

You know, I think I can manage to accept that some women have different beliefs to me and STILL fight for women's rights. Maybe not the same set of women's rights as I do, but women's rights all the same. It doesn't even involve any cognitive dissonanace. Just an acceptance that when 2 protected characeteristics come into conflict there should be a respectful acknowledgement and no need for a battle.

Unlike gender ideologists who simply wish to destroy or subsume any rights they may come into conflict with.

Or is that too subtle for you @Popeyr

Popeyr · 25/04/2022 18:38

That was reponse to

@Popeyr are you saying JKR is homophobic?

334bu · 25/04/2022 18:41

We'll leave that up to the good readers of Mumsnet to make their own minds

Do you think the good readers of Mumsnet are not if the opinion that lesbisns are sane sex attracted people and that they don't think that people who deny lesbian'sexuality are homophobes?

334bu · 25/04/2022 18:43

That they think people who deny lesbians sexuality are homophes

teawamutu · 25/04/2022 18:44

WildIris · 25/04/2022 17:21

Tell you what, when Riley proves she is dating a be-dicked ‘lesbian’, come back and we’ll talk. Until then, I’ll carrying on believing Riley is doing this simply to line her greasy pockets!

This. Still waiting for one of the pious advocates to lead the way in their own love life.

334bu · 25/04/2022 18:44

Apologies for typos.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/04/2022 18:50

popeyr

Do you know why Baroness Nicholson was removed from the Booker prize she helped found due to her position nearly a decade ago? The "transphobia row"? Kicked off by the odious Damien Barr, you might want to look up his hilarious past comments about watching a trans person try and fail to commit suicide. Or maybe you think that's all fine and dandy.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53276425.amp

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 25/04/2022 18:58

I had forgotten that specimen!!

HermioneWeasley · 25/04/2022 19:06

I LOVE it when she’s in one of her “giver of zero fucks” moods.

UnexpectedItemInShaggingArea · 25/04/2022 19:06

Popeyr · 25/04/2022 18:37

No, I'm saying that some of the people she's signal boosted on Twitter are active campaigners against same sex marriage and gay parents adopting.

To be strictly accurate, Baroness Nicholson was against same Sex marriage but respects the rule of law now the legislation has passed. It's called democracy and pluralism.

beastlyslumber · 25/04/2022 19:07

I love her so much! She's just lovely.

TheFnozwhowasmirage · 25/04/2022 19:12

sausagebap I cried with laughter at the thought of our little kev a lesbian-whisperer.You are a genius.😂
Where would we be without a man to tell us how to lesbian properly?

Moodycow78 · 25/04/2022 19:16

DisgustedofManchester · 25/04/2022 17:03

I think most reasonable people know she gives zero fucks for trans people despite claiming she knows and 'loves' trans people. Everyone knows which is why her brand is getting more toxic.

Lesbian Visibility Week was founded by an inclusive lesbian, not a transphobic one.

The accurate term for an 'inclusive lesbian' is bisexual 🙄

Popeyr · 25/04/2022 19:27

UnexpectedItemInShaggingArea · 25/04/2022 19:06

To be strictly accurate, Baroness Nicholson was against same Sex marriage but respects the rule of law now the legislation has passed. It's called democracy and pluralism.

Do you think she still feels that "for a child to grow up with two lesbian mothers is neither normal nor natural"?

JKR has no fucks left to give. Although she would express it much better
CoraPearl · 25/04/2022 19:32

bellinisurge · 25/04/2022 17:22

Lesbians may include transmen but they don't include transwomen. Because transwomen are not women. They are transwomen

Indeed.

And what do all transwomen have in common with each other? They are all biological men.

Biological men cannot be lesbians because lesbians are same-sex attracted. It is also worth noting that lesbians are the only sexual orientation that exclude biological men, (and why some choose to target lesbians.)

Anyway, back on topic - I love JKR, and my love for her grows with every tweet.

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 25/04/2022 19:33

What are you not understanding @Popeyr

We know. There was a long thread about that here at the time. Most of us decided, as did Baroness Nicholson, that she had the right to vote accordiing to her mores. Once the vote was cast and democracy decided she supports that ruling, it is the law, no matter how much her faith speaks against it.

It really is that simple. She is a woman of principle. If the democratically decided laws do not coincide with her personal beliefs then, in her professional undertakings, she complies with the law, enthusiastically. As she has shown since that vote.

It is no fault of hers that you cannot see that!

ResisterRex · 25/04/2022 19:40

Poor show over at the Telegraph where the headline is not "JKR find herself out of fucks".

Pity:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/04/25/jk-rowling-praises-resilience-courage-lesbian-barrister-suing/

A Stonewall spokesman said: “While we aren’t able to comment on the specifics in an ongoing case, we vigorously deny the allegations and look forward to robustly defending ourselves when this matter is heard by the Employment Tribunal.””

TinselAngel · 25/04/2022 19:41

Do you think she still feels that "for a child to grow up with two lesbian mothers is neither normal nor natural"?
Why don't you ask her instead of us? How are we supposed to know.

Lynnthesearesexnotgenderpeople · 25/04/2022 20:38

Caroline Farrow and Baroness Nicholson know that males cannot be lesbians. They know that lesbians are same sex attracted and that lesbian women have the right to exclude males from that. What they actually believe about the 'morality' of homosexuality is kind of irrelevant isn't it?

DomesticatedZombie · 25/04/2022 20:40

Linda Riley of the 'Jack the Ripper' museum?

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3442065-Divas-Linda-Riley-in-Private-Eye

MarbelloCherry · 25/04/2022 20:40

Popeyr · 25/04/2022 19:27

Do you think she still feels that "for a child to grow up with two lesbian mothers is neither normal nor natural"?

She did just under two years ago, but she might have changed her mind since then.

🤷‍♀️

JKR has no fucks left to give. Although she would express it much better
ScreamingMeMe · 25/04/2022 20:44

"First Caroline Farrow and now Baroness Nicholson, she sure is friendly with women that really, really don't like lesbians."

^She's also friendly with a lot of lesbians. She was at a lunch thatwaa chock-full of lesbians very recently: surely you must remember? Lots of mad, angry crying and transwomen saying that the butch lesbians looked like men? Sure you remember!

And if anyone hates lesbians, and wants to erase them, it's TRAs.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4188099-Evidence-of-TRA-Gender-Idealogue-Homophobia

P.s. Nobody gaf what that sell-out Linda 'Ripper Museum' Riley thinks.

ResisterRex · 25/04/2022 20:45

Remind me, when Theresa May was in charge and self-ID was being propelled at the speed of light, did Stonewall and co say "oh no, not you, not on our watch! we must WAIT until a Tory with a pure-as-driven-snow voting record comes along before we could possibly proceed!!"

No, they did not.

ScreamingMeMe · 25/04/2022 20:46

"She did just under two years ago, but she might have changed her mind since then."

I don't think you've understood that tweet at all.

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