Grace Lavery on Woman’s Hour Today (7 April)

[CaveMum]

Why on earth I do not know, but the “delightful” Grace Lavery is on Woman’s Hour today.

This Grace Lavery

The girldick trend is quite old by now. The idea is to make us used to hearing about penises as just one alternative form of female genitalia. Then you get books like Lavery's reviewed in a new American trans-inclusive feminist journal, by another trans woman. As part of feminist literature.

I think it was Lavery's book, but whatever it was, it had 'penis' in the title.

It will be fun to see how various feminist policies will have to change once 'women' no longer has anything to do with the female sex. I can't quite imagine what the political issues would be that would then qualify as 'women's issues'.

Probably worth mentioning that there is no similar pressure to talk about 'boy-pussy' as just an alternative form of male genitalia!

It's astonishing how deeply sexist this whole ideology is, from starting with rigid gender roles, dress, and other sexist stereotypes as the way 'woman' is now defined, via posthumously transing many feminist role-models in history to the way only the female sex is now being erased.

I mean it is astonishing as it is pushed by the left.

@nepeta erectile dysfunction and male pattern baldness?

[quote Crcohetmonster]@nepeta erectile dysfunction and male pattern baldness?[/quote]
Perhaps, heh.

But I have actually read an argument that feminists should fight for reproductive technologies to be created which would allow trans women to give birth. Because that is about the reproductive rights trans women want.

But how could a TW give birth? Where would the baby grow? Would it come out through the penis? So many questions.

@Crcohetmonster

But how could a TW give birth? Where would the baby grow? Would it come out through the penis? So many questions.

This tweet is due another airing. (NSFW but funny as hell.)

mobile.twitter.com/nineteen8ofour/status/1488107314632605697?s=21

I've come to the conclusion grace isnt very original.

Pinching sex and pinching book titles.

Pinching feminist theory and re hashing into a pile of queer mumbo jumbo.

@Deliriumoftheendless, @Sortilege thank you for the explanation. That, well, I hesitate to say makes sense, but you know what I mean.

I will now think up bad puns about my genitals whilst having a pillow fight. There may be squealing. That's what we girls do.

I've just heard a clip from the interview where Grace says that no feminist thought that women were a natural, biological kind before Caitlin Jenner came out as a woman, and that the notion of 'sex based rights' is a very recent phenomenon. I'm surprised that this absolute nonsense wasn't challenged more. Marie de Gournay wrote about women's sex based rights in the 17th century. Olympe de Gouges was executed in the French Revolution for saying the rights of man applied to the female sex. Mary Wollstonecraft's 'vindication of the rights of woman' constantly uses the words 'the female sex' and mentions that men have tried to hoard rights for their own sex and grant none to the other. It's just crazy to me the extent to which TRAs will just lie about the most basic things.

Awful as the title [theft] is, better than Lavery’s working title of “Diary of a Hung Girl”.

Thankfully they were told that there are, in fact, limits to the shit you can get away with under the cloak of identity politics; & thus they would have to bastardise the title of someone else’s work. In their oh-so-witty phallocentric way.

It does say a lot about Lavery that they can’t even come up with an original title for the story of their life. Rather, Lavery is determined to try to tie themselves to literary figures by “parodying” (rather a stretch of the term) titles of writers of acclaim/popularity* - crucially, titles of works that discuss very real suffering & privation.

• exact nature of which could be unpicked at great length in both cases

@Redshoeblueshoe

And Elvis Costello could do a song to go with it: Just watching the erections

Beatles?

'Penis Hard Day's Night'
'I Am the Phallus'
'PaperDick Writer'

'Lady Ma-Dong-A'

'The Long and Winding Boaby'

'Octopus' Hard-on'

@BettyFilous my DH had a similar reaction (also while washing up) - to all the mansplaining to women about womaning. All bollocks he said :) (Male ones - of course.)

More trans-presentations like that and the GC case is made.

apologies, I've totally let the side down; it's mildly amusing making up genitalia puns. Not that I'd actually use one for a book title, mind you.

'Here Comes the Schlong'

Christ, I can't stop.

[quote Motorina]**@Deliriumoftheendless, @Sortilege thank you for the explanation. That, well, I hesitate to say makes sense, but you know what I mean.

I will now think up bad puns about my genitals whilst having a pillow fight. There may be squealing. That's what we girls do.[/quote]
You and I read very different versions of the Four Marys, St Clare's, Malory Towers, Chalet School etc.

My version was all about sardines and Midnight Feasts.

@Redshoeblueshoe

And Elvis Costello could do a song to go with it: Just watching the erections

Bill Haley and his Comets sing:

Frock Around the Cock.

@Historyherstory Ugh, I should have known better than looking at the Gruniad.

‘ Even those who remain entirely sympathetic to Rowling can’t fail to acknowledge that it is she who is preventing the smooth continuation of the Wizarding World. ’

Fresh claptrap anyone?

#PaperDickWriter
#FrockAroundTheClock

A glorious start to the day.

Are those Twitter references? I couldn't find anything

No, we're juat amusing ourselves. At least I am.

Her penis is a warm gun

“Even those who remain entirely sympathetic to Rowling can’t fail to acknowledge that it is she who is preventing the smooth continuation of the Wizarding World.”

FFS really? She’s preventing the smooth continuation of her own creation by having opinions and thinking women matter? An adult wrote that?

@DomesticatedZombie

No, we're juat amusing ourselves. At least I am.

Her penis is a warm gun

👏👏👏

@Manicsfan

Whilst not the most important point by any means, I'm raging by GL's appropriation of title of Dave Eggers book for such a crass, cringey title. A Staggering Work of Heartbreaking Genius is based on Dave taking care of his young brother when his Mum and Dad both die, of tragic illnesses. It's funny, original, heartbreaking, honest and human. And Dave has done loads for child literacy since. What a total fucking scunner to have this gammon stealing your book title.

Yes, I was thinking that. It seems very rude to just steal someone else's book title. I'm sure Dave Eggers is a bit above it all, and won't think it worth it to complain, but really! I loved his book Zeitoun.