Boris Speaks!

[AndAsIfByMagic]

Sky News.

He thinks it's unfair for biological men to compete in women's sports.

He says it's important to preserve women's spaces.

Says he has a lot to learn about the issue but we have to be sensible.

Please don’t make out they are in any way honourable or competent. They aren’t. It’s a single issue thing and nothing more. Says more about you than them to be honest.

What says more about me? I can't stand Boris, I haven't said I'm going to vote for the Tories, and I certainlydidn'tsay anything about them being honourable.. I have voted Lib Dem or Labour in past elections. I was merely trying to point out the foolishness of the frequently repeated idea on this thread that a party deciding that it might help them to win an election if they state something which they a) know perfectly well to be true and b) know that the majority of voters agree with is somehow a bad thing.

Johnson has found a weak spot and he's probing, as would any politician with half a brain. Labour could put a stop to it any time they wanted by giving a straight answer to a straight question. If it's such a small issue why won't they?

I mean BJ isn’t the kind of guy who has a great estime and respect for women does he? We just have to look at the way he is in his personal life to know he has very little respect for women.

Given that no one here (I imagine) is likely to date BJ, shag him, have their daughters or friends do any of those things, his personal life and whether he respects women in it is kind of irrelevent.

It's entirely possible for political figures to create a good social policy even when some, or many, of their personal attitudes are shit. Maybe it seems like that shouldn't be the case, but evidently it is.

Are the Tories likely to "go back" on this issue? Well, they are going to have to go one way or another. At this point it seems unlikely they would go the other way, it's no easier and offers them no advantage.

@sessell

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In the US, California is the only state that allows men In women’s prisons, and yes women have been assaulted by those “vulnerable” males. California is extremely leftist. As for school age sports it’s a state by state basis, depending on if a Republican or a Democrat runs the state.

Of course, Biden is hell bent on changing all that. His speech was absolutely awful, very pro-men and anti-women. Obama also tried to allow men into women’s prisons but his order was rescinded. Hopefully the same happens with Biden.

Eek am I wrong? Are they also housing men in women’s prisons in Washington? Sorry, not trying to derail the thread.

Jaysus, I’m really behind. I just read this.

Other states pushing forward with broadly unpopular “gender identity” transfers include Connecticut and Massachusetts, World News Group said, as well as New Jersey, which moved a biologically male inmate to a female facility in Pennsylvania last week.

This is outrageous! Do any of these brain trusts wonder why there are only men wanting to be with women and not the other way around? FFS!

@Snoodsy

Eek am I wrong? Are they also housing men in women’s prisons in Washington? Sorry, not trying to derail the thread.

Sadly yes. This is from March 2021 (so 13 months ago), and more info has come out since.

report

A half dozen men have been transferred to theWashington Correctional Center for Woman, according to an employee at the facility.

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The concern among staff and inmates is a risk of sexual assault. The employee cites a recent incident in which an inmate from a male facility raped a female in the women’s prison upon arrival. The transferred inmate, according to the employee, is incarcerated for a sex offense and has “fully functional male genitalia, a history of violence and sexual depravity in the community, and has been found guilty of sexual assault against other inmates while housed in the men’s facilities.”

“He is a proven sexual predator, having committed multiple crimes against women, yet the State of Washington had no problem moving him into a women’s facility and housing him with the most vulnerable in our population (our mental health unit),” the employee wrote.

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“Word of the incident has inevitably traveled throughout the facility, causing much concern amongst both inmates and staff,” the employee said. “It demonstrated the state’s willingness to put the most vulnerable of our population in harm’s way, by locking them in a cell with a proven predator, with zero accountability or repercussions for the perpetrator.”

Among the inmates transferred to the women’s facility is Donna Perry, formerly known as Douglas Perry, who was convicted for killing three sex workers. Before being charged, Perryreportedly went to Thailandfor gender reassignment surgery. Prosecutors during the trial claimed that Perry had undergone the surgery to avoid suspicion for the killings.

Also recently transferred in was Hobby Bingham, now known as Princess Zoee Marie Andromeda Love, whowas convictedfor having sex with a 12-year-old girl. Bingham is alleged by the anonymous employee to have had sex with a female inmate at the women’s facility.

Continues: mynorthwest.com/2666243/doc-washington-correctional-center-women-men-transfer/

@GoodJanetBadJanet

Also bigger picture, such as abortion and birth control are more medical issues, whereas getting a tattoo is different as that's cosmetic.

A double-mastectomy such as we are discussing is being done for cosmetic reasons too. Likewise there are no medical grounds for doling out puberty blockers to anyone who asks for them. So we're in agreement then that children aren't old enough to change their bodies permanently, unless there are actual health & wellbeing grounds for it.