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Breaking news - Emily won't compete

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Doyoumind · 30/03/2022 19:29

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/60934099

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EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 02/04/2022 10:35

@Noisyprat

I'm actually beginning to wonder if this would have happened if Laura Kenny hadn't been competing. I wonder if they were just shit scared of the fallout if EN beat Kenny. I mean can you imagine the headlines!
If Laura Kenny had been competing my expectation is that there would have been a political decision for EB not to win nor set a record time (similar to team rules and F1).
TheAbbotOfUnreason · 02/04/2022 10:45

Em's first race was leaked from within, by being shared to a high profile GC . Once the media picked up on it via that GC it became a media feeding frenzy of speculation and mis information

Hmmm. Not sure what mis information is involved when it comes to saying “no males in female sport”.

Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 02/04/2022 11:03

EB mother seems to not understand that the rest of the world is not EB mum.

Bluntly did they really think that after EB did so many interviews when they came out about how they were going to race as a woman, that ppl wouldn’t be looking to see exactly when that happened?

tabbycatstripy · 02/04/2022 11:04

‘Em's first race was leaked from within, by being shared to a high profile GC’

And also it was meant to be a secret is not the argument they think it is.

FrancescaContini · 02/04/2022 11:04

EB plus mum seem very, er, self absorbed.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/04/2022 11:12

Someone on Twitter is suggesting to EB mum that the Good Law Project can sort it Grin

Artichokeleaves · 02/04/2022 11:35

@Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky

EB mother seems to not understand that the rest of the world is not EB mum.

Bluntly did they really think that after EB did so many interviews when they came out about how they were going to race as a woman, that ppl wouldn’t be looking to see exactly when that happened?

A vast amount of 'not my Nigel' goes on.
SheldonesqueTheBstard · 02/04/2022 11:36

Or not my Nigella…

tabbycatstripy · 02/04/2022 11:39

Emily Sheffield at the Standard: “This was one race... What are we afraid of?”

We’re not afraid. We just know sports need to be fair and male athletes in female sports isn’t fair. No more complicated than that.

tabbycatstripy · 02/04/2022 11:43

And Bridges’ mum: “GC misinformation” - where is the misinformation?

Emily Bridges is the sex Emily Bridges was born as. No misinformation.

Any rules that permit participation in female sports by people who are not female are based on misinformation.

StopLying · 02/04/2022 11:49

@Noisyprat

I'm actually beginning to wonder if this would have happened if Laura Kenny hadn't been competing. I wonder if they were just shit scared of the fallout if EN beat Kenny. I mean can you imagine the headlines!
Definitely this.
Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 02/04/2022 11:53

Ah emily Sheffield sister in law of David Cameron. Writing from within her immensely privileged bubble.

tabbycatstripy · 02/04/2022 11:56

Got expelled from Marlborough. Now expelled from feminism.

Artichokeleaves · 02/04/2022 12:13

@tabbycatstripy

Emily Sheffield at the Standard: “This was one race... What are we afraid of?”

We’re not afraid. We just know sports need to be fair and male athletes in female sports isn’t fair. No more complicated than that.

It's just one race!

It's just a few females raped!

It's just... it's just....

Can we have a number please of how many females it's ok to use and harm in the name of making male people happier living their best lives?

Ballpark will do.

tabbycatstripy · 02/04/2022 12:16

You just know she’d be that mum inviting her friends round for play dates, and her daughter is playing with her own toys on the floor. Boy walks up and kicks her tower over. Emily Sheffield says, “Well you have to learn how to share, don’t you? Why not let Timmy play with the bricks now? You can tidy up the playroom with me.”

CaveMum · 02/04/2022 12:41

What I don’t get is why don’t men who wish to be elite sportsmen AND wish to transition, just put it off till their peak competitive days are over?

Female athletes (not always, but very often) have to put motherhood on hold as they know it will disadvantage them in their sporting careers (time off for pregnancy and recovery, disrupted training regime due to caring responsibilities, etc).

The whole point is that some times you have to make a choice, you can’t have your cake and eat it!

Somanysocks · 02/04/2022 12:45

Male privilege innit.

Signalbox · 02/04/2022 12:48

What I don’t get is why don’t men who wish to be elite sportsmen AND wish to transition, just put it off till their peak competitive days are over?

Probably because they are not quite elite enough. Why be the 20th best man when you could be the best woman. I think there are a few TM athletes who do put off taking testosterone until they've retired. They know that they won't be competitive in the men's category even on testosterone. This is what highlights the unfairness really. If it was fair you'd expect to see some balance and athletes going both ways.

FrancescaContini · 02/04/2022 12:49

@Artichokeleaves

Totally agree with you.

“It’s just one race!!” But how many women in this one race / one swim etc have dedicated hours upon hours of their lives to reach this point? How many sacrifices have they and their families made until now? For this to amount to very little because they’re instantly at a huge disadvantage the moment a fellow competitor with a MALE physique enters alongside them. I can’t imagine how gutting this must be.

tabbycatstripy · 02/04/2022 13:42

It’s so disrespectful to them, Francesca. It’s their lives!

Runningupthecurtains · 02/04/2022 14:14

@tabbycatstripy

Emily Sheffield at the Standard: “This was one race... What are we afraid of?”

We’re not afraid. We just know sports need to be fair and male athletes in female sports isn’t fair. No more complicated than that.

Ahh but phobia means fear - so we must be afraid otherwise we are justifiably angry rather than nasty transphobic bullies.
ScribblingPixie · 02/04/2022 14:23

@Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky

Ah emily Sheffield sister in law of David Cameron. Writing from within her immensely privileged bubble.
Privilege calls to privilege (as someone wittier than me said on Twitter).
tabbycatstripy · 02/04/2022 14:30

Did people see Starmer said the Bridges decision was correct?

Truthlikeness · 02/04/2022 14:44

To borrow a phrase from John Pike (lecturer in sports ethics - good twitter feed), fairness in sports is a function of the process, not the result.
Mediocre males losing against elite women doesn't make it fair.

FemaleAndLearning · 02/04/2022 17:09

Laura Kenny didn't compete today as she was ill.