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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

MP comes out as transgender

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poshme · 30/03/2022 09:25

A male Tory MP has released a statement on Twitter that they are transgender, and also that a couple of years ago they were raped.
It's a brave statement.

MP comes out as transgender
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AlisonDonut · 30/03/2022 11:57

It is almost like they can tell the difference.

potniatheron · 30/03/2022 11:58

@Thoosa

All vaguely reminiscent of Ron Davies on Clapham Common, but times have changed so, as *@AnyFucker* says, it will have the opposite effect on career.
LOL yes this is exactly what I thought only I couldn't remember the dude's name.

I'm sure more will come out over the coming days and the story won't be quite as Jamie's presented it.

ValerieCupcake · 30/03/2022 11:59

@potniatheron

So let me get this straight: he co-owned a prostitution website, ran a number of dodgy companies, crashed his car endangering life and limb and is now using the trans thing as a handy dead cat.

I sense a resignation coming in 3....2....1....

Is that the 102nd use?
IvyTwines · 30/03/2022 12:01

"Solidarity and all my support. Huge admiration for your courage. As with others in the LGBT+ community, you have blazed a trail." - Ed Miliband.

Given that it was Jess Philips, from Ed's own party, who highlighted the 'sugar daddy' website for 'boys and girls' to sell themselves sexually to older rich men, and called for this MP to be suspended. he must be aware of that surely?

DomesticatedZombie · 30/03/2022 12:01

You could call it blazing, I suppose.

Carla2601 · 30/03/2022 12:03

@Signalbox

He seems to have quite a lot going on in his life doesn't he? Labour will be annoyed. Tories once again the more "diverse" party.
LOL
Unformidable · 30/03/2022 12:03

I just caught the tail end of an interview on Sky News. I may have misheard, but apparently the MP is biologically female? Can anyone confirm?

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DancingBarefootOnIce · 30/03/2022 12:05

He’s clearly got issues and doesn’t seem fit to be an MP regardless of pronouns. I hope he gets help.

DancingBarefootOnIce · 30/03/2022 12:07

It’s unsurprising Boris praised him but mocks Keira’s stance on trans issues.

gogohm · 30/03/2022 12:08

It's very brave to speak out. A large percentage of grass roots conservatives will not be on his side. Yes the situation is complicated, but rape is rape, and ptsd is real, sounds like he was alluding to being reckless/suicidal. Do I approve of his business dealings, no, but they are legal and he was voted for, his constituency obviously looked passed them

Greengate66 · 30/03/2022 12:09

@EsmaCannonball

Makes me nostalgic for the days when dodgy MPs used to find god. This is the type that I think of as Tabula Rasa Trans; everything I did before was because I didn't want to be a man; everything I did before can be forgotten because I am now a woman; everyone who judges me now is motivated by hate.

I'm guessing someone who made money out of a sugar daddy website has a very specific, degrading, sexualized view of what a woman is.

"Tabula Rasa Trans" is such a good way of putting it. This seems to apply to many people identifying as trans. In some cases more genuine than others - unable to cope with internal trauma or trauma they have inflicted on others and now recognise and need to dissociate from. In some cases less so, following a criminal conviction.
Thoosa · 30/03/2022 12:09

@Unformidable

I just caught the tail end of an interview on Sky News. I may have misheard, but apparently the MP is biologically female? Can anyone confirm?
According to The Guardian:

“ Wallis said there had been a “close call” where their trans identity had nearly been made public in April 2020 by a blackmailer who sent photographs to family members.

“The blackmailer demanded £50,000 to keep quiet, Wallis said, but after the police got involved, the perpetrator pleaded guilty and was sentenced to two years and nine months in prison.”

So presumably the blackmail was predicated on the MP’s family potentially being surprised by the contents of the photos?

Presumably the family also know the biological sex of Jamie?

So this’ll be that other definition of “biological” at odds with traditional science, I would think.

AndAsIfByMagic · 30/03/2022 12:09

Sugar Daddy website? FFS.

How did he even get selected?

dworky · 30/03/2022 12:11

If he's been raped, I wish him the best but I also take what he says with a pinch of salt. He's an exploitative, misogynist liar.

BootsAndRoots · 30/03/2022 12:11

@Thoosa I would assume from the blackmail that it is more likely a photograph of him wearing something or dressed up as something.

elferian · 30/03/2022 12:11

touch of the Kevin Spacey's here

Thoosa · 30/03/2022 12:11

@AndAsIfByMagic

Sugar Daddy website? FFS.

How did he even get selected?

“Sex work is work.”

“We’re the cool electorate.”

Repeat robotically.

Dillydollydingdong · 30/03/2022 12:12

Why do we have to call him "they"? He's decided what sex he wants to be - male. (And it looks like maybe the worst kind of male).

tabbycatstripy · 30/03/2022 12:12

So who was the blackmailer? Does anyone know the court case?

Thoosa · 30/03/2022 12:13

[quote BootsAndRoots]@Thoosa I would assume from the blackmail that it is more likely a photograph of him wearing something or dressed up as something.[/quote]
That’s what I mean.

A biological female “dressed up” in men’s clothes, wouldn’t exactly come as a surprise to the family of an MP who has been wearing men’s clothes in public for years.

tabbycatstripy · 30/03/2022 12:15

Wallis isn’t female.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 30/03/2022 12:16

@Needmoresleep

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10667135/Tory-MP-comes-trans-Bridgend-MP-Jamie-Wallis-says-raped.html

Good luck to him. I hope he is supportive of other rape victims and understands their need for penis free spaces.

I'd be pleased but amazed if he did. He was the director of 'sugar daddy' business supplying young women to older men. Women as a commodity. Fits neatly in with the trans view of women as a necessary observer, admirer and accessory.
tabbycatstripy · 30/03/2022 12:18

We don’t have to call him “they”. Wallis just confirmed he isn’t changing his presentation or pronouns “for the time being”.

Thoosa · 30/03/2022 12:18

@tabbycatstripy

Wallis isn’t female.
Yes I think it’s clear Wallis has XY chromosomes.

Otherwise the order of events and the blackmail don’t make sense.

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