Women are still not allowed to gather and speak

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'Protestors are now outside the Mechanics Institute where the Woman’s Place UK group are holding a conference on ‘single-sex provision in policy and law’.'

Plus the reporter said they'd asked a TRA representative to appear but they couldn't found anyone willing to speak.

But they did make a statement accusing WPUK of "calling the police to intimidate us" as if a threatening baying mob wasn't intimidating women and they should be allowed to do whatever they wanted.

@NitroNine

Peter is an oral historian, working with the NHS.

I am slightly worried my views about him undertaking this role would be deleted, so I shall leave it here.

Am very glad attendees were able to leave safely; but how deeply disappointing that protests like this (ie aggressive, calculated to intimidate & utterly unpeaceful) are STILL being allowed to go ahead (& get out of hand) in this way. Police Services need to remember the basic underlying principle of “without fear or favour” & then start applying it to their work at all times.

Yet again, somebody who has signed up to Nolan and plausibly the NHS values.

Why are these breaches happening in plain sight and none of the people with oversight are addressing them?

Reminds me of the campaign for woman suffrage when women were considered too weak and feeble to vote but also when men threw stones at them and attempted to burn down their meeting rooms.

I'm sure it was all for our own good.

@MiladyBerserko

I have thought for a long time that the government will only take action when a woman is killed for 'transphobia'

We've already seen that sexual assaults and rape of women in prisons or hospitals don't count.

It wouldn't be a death that counts. And if it did, it's not enough to establish a pattern.

There will be some way to logic away why the number will have to be an undetermined number that is always greater than the known number.

I don't think a death would make much difference, I'm sorry.

As pps have said, we've had rapes, assaults, job losses, detransitioners regretting their treatment.

This event has been covered in the Mail:

'Some Women Have Penises': Placard-wielding trans rights protestors besiege feminist campaigners' meeting held to discuss women-only spaces

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10654579/Trans-rights-protestors-besiege-feminist-campaigners-meeting.html

Fantastic quote from Joanna Cherry in the Mail article:

The women holding this meeting have a right equal to those of the protesters to freedom of speech and freedom of expression.'

We support the right to protest. But the right to harass, intimidate, abuse or silence? No.'

I don't think a death would make much difference, I'm sorry

I feel like a real and complete human being. Why am I not treated like one?

@YetAnotherSpartacus

I don't think a death would make much difference, I'm sorry

I feel like a real and complete human being. Why am I not treated like one?

Because, until recently the deaths of women of a certain age were counted differently. It's legitimate for some of us not to count as real and complete human beings.

"Until three years ago, women of Ruth Williams’s age would not have been counted in the Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW). Then, it had a cap of 59 years, now it is 74, and is due to be raised next year, excluding institutions such as care homes and refuges; a hidden death toll.
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“If you are found at the bottom of the stairs at 40, the police are probably going to ask questions,” says Bows, one of the few researchers working in the area. “Deeply entrenched ageism means that if you are 80, it’s, ‘Well, she probably fell.’

“When you look at police data on abuse, rape and murder, older women aren’t there. If a crime is looked at, at all, it’s treated as a safeguarding issue, gender neutral, ‘elder abuse’ with no perpetrator.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4185454-Observer-campaign-to-tackle-femicide

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/mar/07/end-femicide-278-dead-the-hidden-scandal-of-older-women-killed-by-men

I knew one of the men ins tweet above. We were friends for over a decade. I found him intelligent and hilarious and he made me laugh frequently.

That was before I discovered how much he loathed me simply for being female.

I still find it hard to reconcile my sweet, funny friend with the rabid woman-hating shit-stirer.

It must be wonderful for some white men to be suddenly allowed to let all that anger at women spew out without being called sexists. They are on the right side of history and all the Karens should shut up and make them a sandwich.

And then suck their dicks.

That was before I discovered how much he loathed me simply for being female.

Around the time of Sarah Everard, women were sharing personal experiences on Twitter. One had met up with a long-term friend as part of a group and the next week read that he had been arrested for the death of a sex worker. Another met up with a long-term friend who walked her home from the pub because a local rapist was active in the area. He was the local rapist.

#NotAllSnakes It's horrible to discover the way some people can curate different parts of their lives and their attitudes so effectively.

@YetAnotherSpartacus

And then suck their dicks.

Thanks for the first laugh in two days.

For Women Scot said: What part of talking about male violence and acts of brutality like FGM offends you so much?

What happened to make you hate women so much?

Peter: What part of talking about male violence and acts of brutality like FGM offends me so much?

Probably the part where those things are invoked purely (and with breathtaking cynicism) in order to direct hostility towards trans people, you grotesque cranks

According to Peter, when we're not talking about trans people, it's to talk about trans people. And yet he accuses everyone else of cynicism.

And this, in a nutshell, is why I never hang out on liberal feminism places any more. It isn't enough to not talk about male transitioners at all, because that's offensive too. And this means nothing, ever, gets done in those spaces about all the issues that affect women and would continue to affect women if we completely surrendered to all the trans activists' demands.

The target is to eliminate FGM by 2030. We're nowhere near, and this man thinks he's on the side of the angels by shouting outside meetings.

You know what, let's just suppose women were only talking about FGM to get at trans people. Who gives a fuck if it means it gets ended faster?

What Peter is implying here, is he'd rather see the fight to end FGM take longer, than see the campaign be assisted by women he doesn't like.

Well, of course he would. 800 women and girls, sorry "people", are put through FGM a day and he's not one of them. If he was facing the prospect of having one of his body parts being cut off without anaesthetic next year, I bet he'd feel differently. His prospective physical suffering and death wouldn't be a price he was willing to pay. But the bodies of little black and brown girls are an acceptable sacrifice for his goal of chasing gender-critical feminists out of public life as fast as possible.

And he certainly can't fathom that any of us might genuinely empathise with those women and girls, because he doesn't.

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Peter is a gargantuan prick. There are many such men in the world.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Fantastic quote from Joanna Cherry in the Mail article:

The women holding this meeting have a right equal to those of the protesters to freedom of speech and freedom of expression.'

We support the right to protest. But the right to harass, intimidate, abuse or silence? No.'

Yes. Joanna Cherry was very clear wasn’t she.

I think Peter has taken the crown of Grotesque Misogynist. Honestly he comes off as rather unhinged. He really, really hates women huh?

Peter's sister Kate Mitchell was murdered in Kenya last year. I don't know if the perpetrator has been brought to justice but there was a news report suggesting the Kenyan police had a strong suspect, a local man who had been talking to her in the hotel bar. This made the national news here because his sister worked for the BBC's charity, BBC Media Action. He said this about her: Mr Mitchell remembered his sister as having a particular interest in refugees, the health of women and their welfare, and young people. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59391843

A gender critical woman said something about the news report on Twitter and he responded thus:

Hi Sue, my sister Kate was a committed feminist who spent her career working relentlessly for women's empowerment and against VAWG. She was also unequivocal in her support for trans rights, and would be appalled to see her death used to advance a transphobic agenda. Thanks. There is not one word in the original tweet about gender, trans rights or anything of that sort. He reacted to her bio and timeline, I suppose. He's been on the offensive today again.

I'm willing to believe that grief has hit him very hard, but I wonder if his sister would really have welcomed the news that he was standing yelling insults outside a building where an Afghan refugee was talking to other women about the experience of FGM.

(I note in passing there have been some extremely cruel things directed to Peter about his sister on Twitter. I wish that hadn't happened and I don't mention his sister here to encourage more of the same, quite the reverse.)

Ah really? I wish people wouldn't be so fucking low and shitty. There's no need to drag his sister into it.

It could well explain the level of anger he seems to carry.

It could. That's deeply tragic.

Oh, the poor man. That explains a lot. Now I know that, this all makes a lot more sense.

Sunk costs. Looks like he's trapped himself into channelling his grief and rage at gender-critical feminists, and he has acquired a social circle who will cheer that on. Now he's come to their attention, they'll turn on him like a pack of starved dogs if he ever expresses a different point of view.

@FlipperSkipper

I should have been there last night, but covid put a stop to that. I have managed to screenshot that Labour councillors tweets stating that women should not be allowed to meet to discuss sex based rights that are enshrined in law and I will be reporting her to the council standards department.

If you could please post the email address to me by DM I will write to them as well.

Awpuk held a meeting in my town. The venue was withheld until the actual day, to avoid anti woman protestors standing outside as they had done before.

About 2 weeks before the meeting, on a local LGBT Facebook group, a prominent local mtf trans posted, in her own name, a few frantic-sounding appeals, asking for anyone who knew where the venue was, to message her urgently.

She repeated the appeal a couple more times, urging anyone who worked for any likely venue to find out if it was being held there. Respondents wanted to help but did not know. She said she served on the local police community committee, and was going to try to get the meeting banned through that channel.

Nobody asked why she so desperately needed to know, weeks in advance, the venue of a meeting she had no intention of attending.

As a GC woman I held my silence, fearing to be banned from the group.

On the morning of the meeting, the venue received phone calls threatening the staff with some terrible thing that would happen. The venue management were frightened enough to cancel, leaving the organisers in a right mess, having to find a suitable alternative at the last minute.

I'm amazed at the boldness of the trans woman in openly appealing for details of the venue, which information was then clearly used by that person or her associates, to make illegal threats. She obviously felt "untouchable" because she is on a rainbow police committee and therefore seen as a "good person" by the police.

I wish I had had the courage to report those messages. But I doubt the police would have taken them of evidence.