Women are still not allowed to gather and speak

[DomesticatedZombie]

twitter.com/AdamMaidment/status/1507080950856896522?s=20&t=qoogZvWOF8hmbMSL6w5L8w

'Protestors are now outside the Mechanics Institute where the Woman’s Place UK group are holding a conference on ‘single-sex provision in policy and law’.'

Third time lucky

As Simon Edge says, so much for "taking the heat out" of the debate.

twitter.com/simonjedge/status/1507260283466792976?s=20&t=r0Ge_WV25x29-jEYySvhdw

I’m assuming that Maidment would probably describe himself as liberal in his views.

I’m pretty sure that, if you asked him, he’d deplore FGM. He’d likely denounce sex trafficking as a “bad thing” too and, at a stretch, he’d probably concede that women/everyone should have the right to say no to any and all sexual encounters that they don’t want.

And yet… “journalists” of his ilk just can’t join the dots on what they’re actually helping to advocate for under a false flag of Trans “rights.” Nor bother to find out who’s voices, and life experiences, the crowd he’s in are trying to drown out. They’re only abused women after all 🙄

How are supposedly intelligent people, like him, able to pat themselves on the back as he does in his tweets and one-sided articles? Does he not look around the largely male and pale gathering he’s in (and use his eyes and ears) and think…

“hang on a sec.. what did they just chant? WTAF does that sign call for?”

*This isn't right.

Women can meet to discuss the law and their rights in 2022.

We can do that without fear of being attacked.

We can meet to talk.

We can.*

It struck me how powerful your words are @DomesticatedZombie because the power is in the actual saying of them! The voicing it. The not being silent. So many women thinking this but are not feeling able to say it, not feeling safe to attend meetings. We will fight this. One by one. Meeting by meeting. We must.

We can meet to talk.

We can.

I can.

I must.

This is a disgrace. Those poor women. I’m glad to see they were properly protected. In my day as a student, we marched and chanted. There was no violence or incitement. And we marched for things, like grants not loans, not to oppress people.

It like they can join the dots but would lose a few manly man points if they did, so they skirt around the edges pretending they can't join the dots.

Like when you put two magnets of the same polarity together and one shoots off in the other direction, whereas if one was just slightly moved around a tiny bit, they would hurtle towards each other.

This is wilful, not accidental.

Highlight of the night was when it went quiet for a moment inside and we heard a male voice shout through a megaphone “the gender binary is a colonial construct!” And everyone inside hooted with laughter #WPUKManchester

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[quote Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky]This guy from Manchester university is outside in the crowd & thinks men yelling at women is just brilliant

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What a gobshite.

Priapic to have a 'legitimate reason' to stand in the street shouting and intimidating women. 🤮

I have a very low opinion of the police. I think there is too much evidence of racism and misogyny both currently and stretching back decades. Not just the attitudes of individual coppers but built into the structure of the organisation and the tactics used. Obviously Sarah Everard and child Q, but also see the racism around the Brixton riots in the 80s and see the undercover cops impregnating the women they were spying on.

(Of course not all cops are bastards. Not all men are like that. And not all males with trans identities are like males who are like that etc)

But crowds like this, intimidating women from gathering, speaking and sharing ideas - intimidating all women, including women further disadvantaged by being abuse survivors and refugees - do they think they are offering a better alternative to the police? At least in theory we can attempt to hold the police accountable for their racist misogynist bias. These activists answer only to their own religion of gender ideology and quite frankly, like zealots of any religion, they terrify me.

the game has gone too far.

Yes, this is my feeling now.

What I find chilling is this:

Women arranged a meeting to talk about FGM, domestic violence, and our legal rights to single sex spaces, as detailed in the Equality Act.

A mob found them, harassed them, intimidated them, chanted 'ACAB' and 'cis scum off our streets'.

And there is nothing in the papers. Nothing in the news. Bar that ridiculous drivel from MEN.

You would think that women being attacked for protesting would be shocking enough to merit reporting.

On a slightly frivolous note FWR were planning to send snacks to support a meeting because we so strongly support everyone's right to talk even if they were denouncing us in what sounded like a 60minute hate/denunciation/misinterpretation.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3419981-Event-in-Bath-Transphobia-in-the-UK-confronting-anti-trans-fear-mongering?

@pombear

Every time this happens, another woman will look at this and go, 'woah, no this doesn't sit right'.

So thank you Manchester 'trans rights' activists (still not sure what rights you're aiming for, given that in the UK yes, trans rights, like other people's rights are indeed human rights, and protected, other than extra rights that include 'let men who say they're women into women's spaces and places?)

You will have tipped another woman off the #bekind fence.

Well done.

Thank you.

Absolutely. I'm a lazy feminist who reads the books, Twitter, this board, etc, but does nothing beyond discussions with friends who are similarly inactive. Seeing these pictures just days after Lia Thomas and reading about the NHS rape that 'couldn't have happened', has made me feel ashamed not to be doing anything, so I'm now googling how to get involved (suggestions welcome).

neverly:

Talk to people.
Write to your MP. Write to councillors.
Sign up to 'Sex Matters'

There are sometimes consultations, but I think lobbying politicians is always helpful. Even if they don't listen or agree, they will eventually realise that this is not the tiny, niche issue they seem to think it is, and it's not going to go away if they try and ignore it.

I want to go to more meetings now. Got a grassroot meeting next week. Going to Reformers Tree for picnic in the park with Posie end of June.

Is there an agenda yet for the Filia event on October, can't see anything on their web and early bird tickets end on 31 March, but don't know which days to go to.

@DomesticatedZombie thank you. I already get the Sex Matters emails, but I'm just writing an email resigning from the Labour Party (been meaning to do this for weeks) and will redirect my subs to Sex Matters. Also working out if I can get to the Filia conference, and will move on to emailing councillors and MP next.

Brilliant, neverly. The flipside to the awfulness is the amazingly brave, insightful and compassionate women you will meet.

I'm not surprised Annette Wright has protected her Tweets. When I saw the exchange I screenshotted and posted upthread, the ratio was something to behold. Local council elections in a few weeks. I wonder what her majority is.

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

I'm not surprised Annette Wright has protected her Tweets. When I saw the exchange I screenshotted and posted upthread, the ratio was something to behold. Local council elections in a few weeks. I wonder what her majority is.

As surely as night follows day, she will say it is because she was "abused by transphobes".

Which would be a terminological inexactitude. The responses I saw were robust but not abusive.

Honestly these hateful, misogynistic cowards make me so angry. If we are making them this scared and angry by applying our legal and democratic rights as females to meet and discuss our issues, we must be doing something right.

Annette Wright is a member of the Management Board of the Mechanics Centre.

@DomesticatedZombie

Annette Wright is a member of the Management Board of the Mechanics Centre.

Interesting!

The plot thickens. No wonder she's locked her Twitter account.

@DomesticatedZombie

Annette Wright is a member of the Management Board of the Mechanics Centre.

She is also very involved in unions, PSC I think, the union for civil servants.

@DomesticatedZombie

Annette Wright is a member of the Management Board of the Mechanics Centre.

raises eyebrow