Trans cyclist will be allowed in Commonwealth Games

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www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2022/03/22/exclusive-commonwealth-games-2022-allow-trans-women-cyclists/

The Daily Telegraph exclusive reports today that Commonwealth Games chiefs have agreed on new gender rules, which could pave the way for a trans woman to race for a female cycling medal.

The DT understands a potential contender, who previously competed in male categories is in serious contention to be picked. The cyclist has yet to formally confirm they want to compete in Birmingham.

The DT is now in full campaign mode re the trans in sport issue.

The sports section today has the following double page spread

www.telegraph.co.uk/athletics/2022/03/22/sport-must-face-reality-fairness-inclusion-cannot-co-exist/
Ross Tucker

www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2022/03/22/transgender-athletes-womens-competition-sport-by-sport-guide/
By Ben Rumsby - Sports investigataions reporter

www.telegraph.co.uk/swimming/2022/03/21/terror-labelled-transphobic-now-tops-inclination-protect-womens/
Oliver Brown Chief Sports Correspondent

Plus an article "Difficult for the science to find level playing field for all"
Tom Cary Senior sports corresondent (no online link)

In the main paper
www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2022/03/22/every-win-lia-thomas-loss-women-sport/
Allison Pearson

• Banner head on main paper "Trans sport insanity"

At last the media ( well some of them) are being brave enough to pop their head above the parapet.

However I cannot believe their is no other fitter female cyclist who is being replaced by this overweight man.

They are coming through thick and fast and I am surprised that after the amount of coverage Lia Thomas got they are still pushing through with this

We need this kind of thing to happen. Mass audiences of sports fans seeing it with their own eyes.

Terrible shame for the women who will lose out but it's a long game.

Sadly I too came to the conclusion that maybe it needs to happen. It doesn't, of course, because people at the top could do something radical and come to work with a backbone. But that won't happen.

So what will happen is that women will be denied a place in sporting events that they've worked their whole lives for, males will take those places and people will see this ideology in action, and say no.

"Difficult for the science to find level playing field for all"

I may not be the bright star in the sky, but the possession of 2 X chromosomes makes you female and 1 Y chromosome make you make. Science in this regard really is that simple.

For sport the only level playing field is segregation of the sexes.

Cycling has a very high profile, so any attempt to include a transgender cyclist in a women's team will certainly raise profile

Sorry - 1 Y chromosome make you male!

Agreed nauticant - sport with the evident unfairness will be a key issue. It should be what's happening to children with social contagion and online coercion by adult groups running rampant but it will be sport that exposed the lunacy.
I noticed that yesterday the Mail had 3 critical articles online. I also noted how many men commented on this article about Coe's pronouncement in the Times. They now get it and are speaking out:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8f658262-a934-11ec-b5dd-c16e85f55725?shareToken=e329e17d5ac67e9f940004d2775456e4

Lockeddoors I think you may be thinking of a different cyclist.
The potential contender here isn't overweight, mediocre or 20 years older than the women competing.
They have been competitive in junior men's racing until (very) recently and are therefore likely to do very well indeed.

Well now, when we know the date we can book an a/l day.

I've never been to an elite athletic event before but I think I may enjoy watching a women's cycling event.

The fact that a media campaign is now gathering steam is heartening. However, the sports bodies (with the possible exception of rugby) are utter cowards and in dereliction of their duty to women's sport means, I fear, that sports girls and women are going to have to risk their futures by making a stand themselves.

It is outrageous and wrong that the organisations who should be looking after women's sport are too feeble to deal with the issue but, unless there is a complete U turn by sporting bodies I do fear that it will have to come down to the female competitors risking all to overturn this insanity.

About 2.70.01 Julia Hartley Brewer putting a labour spokesman on the ropes about female sport and what a woman is

We need this kind of thing to happen. Mass audiences of sports fans seeing it with their own eyes.

Absolutely. Most people who aren't engaged with the debate take one look at this and decide it isn't fair. Live however you want, wear whatever clothes you want, (if an adult) use whatever hormones and surgery will make you happy. But some thing need to remain closed to you.

*We need this kind of thing to happen. Mass audiences of sports fans seeing it with their own eyes.

Terrible shame for the women who will lose out but it's a long game.*

^ this ^^

I’ve always thought there are two ways to stop a runaway band wagon. You could either throw yourself in front of it, or you wait until it picks up enough speed and it comes off the road

I've never been to an elite athletic event before but I think I may enjoy watching a women's cycling event.

I applied for cycling tickets but unfortunately didn't get any. They're soooo hard to get because the velodrome holds way fewer people that the athletics and cycling is quite popular (probably because the GB team usually does well).

I assume this is about Bridges. And I wonder, I just wonder if seeing just what the pushback on Thomas' inclusion in the NCAA has been will influence that cyclist's decision to compete.

I believe they are fully of the righteous view that they should be allowed, and that their mother is very righteous about this. So, maybe they are doing the fingers in the ears 'you are all haters' move.

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10643023/Commonwealth-Games-agrees-gender-rules-trans-woman-compete-female-cycling-event.html

"Difficult for the science to find level playing field for all"

Impossible, but that should be ok because it's not the right outcome. There are 2 sexes, humans a a sexually dimorphic species. So each sex needs one level playing field apiece. It's really not difficult. If there are people who don't feel they fit on the field appropriate to their sex, well then they need to find some other alternative rather than invading someone else's pitch.

I am all for inclusion. Trans people should have their own cycling, swimming and other athletic categories. End of.

Just watched that Talk radio clip. The squirming, evasion and complete cognitive disonance of that MP beggars belief. Tall about batshit crazy politicians - trembling in their shoes because of a small percentage of TRAs and the money that's backing them.

Two work colleagues telling me about this today, they had no idea things were so bad. It's all news to them. I've just emailed them a lot more news....

I hope a whole load of men enter. Preferably most of the field. It needs to be writ large what this means.

I suspect a few of the pack leaders might like it less when they discover they have fair competition from other men.

Women are not men with lower testosterone.

Just today, Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson was being interviewed for the US Supreme Court and was asked, "Can you define what is a woman?" And she said, "No. I am not a biologist."

Now, I've been rooting for Justice Jackson as I think it's high time a public defender and a Black woman make it on our Supreme Court, but she's clearly pandering to this fringe element because our President Biden does as well. I don't doubt her other qualifications, but what kind of answer is that? Judges need to be able to define and classify the people they write law about. What if the question had been, "Can you define murder?" And she says, "no. I am not a criminal." It's equally as absurd.

www.politico.com/news/2022/03/22/blackburn-jackson-define-the-word-woman-00019543?_amp=true

www.birminghamworld.uk/news/birmingham-2022-trans-woman-cyclist-looks-to-compete-for-female-medals-at-commonwealth-games-3623069

@nauticant

We need this kind of thing to happen. Mass audiences of sports fans seeing it with their own eyes.

Terrible shame for the women who will lose out but it's a long game.

Agreed. It was this very issue that finally got my oh to understand the wider problem. Up until that point, he thought I was vaguely exaggerating but now he gets it in spades.

Just today, Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson was being interviewed for the US Supreme Court and was asked, "Can you define what is a woman?" And she said, "No. I am not a biologist."

Still - at least she knows that if an expert is required then it should be a biologist not a professor of gender studies.