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Posie Parker Fox News

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IdentifyingAsAPrincess · 18/03/2022 09:04

www.foxnews.com/sports/lia-thomas-protesters-ncaa-women-swimming-victory-atlanta

So unapologetic "There's a man called Will Thomas, who's changed his name to Lia Thomas". No pissing around with the TW descriptor, I used to think she was a bit much, now I think she's just right and very needed.

Can we have a thread to follow her US trip please, she had a great Speaker Corner outside the White House too.

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EricCartmansMagicalUnderpants · 18/03/2022 19:23

@dementedma

She's getting a massive amount of abuse from the pro trans lobby, needless to say
Well it's what they're best at when they don't get their own way. Rape and death threats, verbal and physical abuse, attempted cancellation, calling da police, contacting the employer. They've got the lot in their miserable little tool kits.
spacehardware · 18/03/2022 19:26

"Rape and death threats, verbal and physical abuse, attempted cancellation, calling da police, contacting the employer. They've got the lot in their miserable little tool kits"

Good.

Let them show themselves. They're making her point for her

LaChanticleer · 18/03/2022 20:20

’Being a bit much' is sometimes the only way to get things done.

A lot of people thought the suffragettes were “a bit much.”

Talk about wrong side of history…

Ameanstreakamilewide · 18/03/2022 21:44

I wonder if she still lurks here from time to time...i hope so.

She can see how much we admire her and how much support she has from us.

You're the best, Kellie-Jay. 👍

Appalonia · 18/03/2022 23:11

She was also brilliant in Nottingham when the TRAs tried to disrupt her meeting! Well worth a watch...

FemaleAndLearning · 18/03/2022 23:16

@IdentifyingAsAPrincess

"Cheat!"

The man she was engaging Posie and asked her if she was a biologist. She replied "I'm not a vet but I know what a dog is". Brilliant, it will go down as a classic.
Mollyollydolly · 18/03/2022 23:25

She's got more balls than Buster Gonad metaphorically speaking. And yeah I used to think she was a bit much. After years of this shite I dont anymore. I think she's especially right about language. Say what you see.

MalagaNights · 18/03/2022 23:25

He's a man yells women's rights campaigner.
Go Posie. You are making waves over there!!

twitter.com/madeleinekearns/status/1504637134472462336?t=uEjPVq90l2HSLkFX3N7k6g&s=19

Nicoise · 18/03/2022 23:31

Kelly is phenomenal, flushing out the TRAs by putting herself in the firing line. The women haters can't resist attacking her.

Eyesofdisarray · 18/03/2022 23:57

Wow! KJ- on fire!!

FrancescaContini · 19/03/2022 00:00

[quote MalagaNights]He's a man yells women's rights campaigner.
Go Posie. You are making waves over there!!

twitter.com/madeleinekearns/status/1504637134472462336?t=uEjPVq90l2HSLkFX3N7k6g&s=19[/quote]
Brilliant!

RoyKentsChestHair · 19/03/2022 00:32

So if that Schuyler character in the video knows that there’s a difference between men’s and women’s competitions, how do they square that with letting a biological male into the women’s race?

From the interview linked by a PP with the transman journalist in PP’s video - “I think sometimes, ‘Oh, I really wish I could compete as a girl because I want to win that race.’ It’s fun to win,” he told Lesley Stahl in 2016. “It’s a different world on the men’s team. I am working the same amount for 16th place. And that’s OK ... it has other kinds of glory in it.”

Delphinium20 · 19/03/2022 01:31

I give Posie props for her no-nonsense speech. I doubt she'll get arrested-Free speech and protest is protected quite well here and police have little interest in arresting white, middle aged women. Police in the US are the furthest from being woke.

Schuyler keeps saying she wants a conversation but can't seem to keep one going.

Datun · 19/03/2022 09:10

Did Kellie-Jay attend the swimming baths just to shout at a transgender person and anyone supporting them?

Christ, I hope so. Being actually present at the misogyny when you call it out gets way more publicity.

You probably don't understand MargaritaPie, given blazing sunlight isn't a tactic transgenderism is known to embrace.

Helleofabore · 19/03/2022 09:42

I am still laughing that Pie thought that was the ultimate ‘gotcha’.

Did Kellie-Jay attend the swimming baths just to shout at a transgender person and anyone supporting them?

Really?

Shall we list all the recent events where trans activists have turned up to women’s meetings and events ‘just to shout at women and their supporters’?

But shouting facts and civil slogans is absolutely fine.

pie also knows just what else those particular trans activists do. Let’s list them.

  • intimidate women attending to try to scare them away.
  • bang on windows of venues shouting violence while women are speaking.
  • let of smoke bombs around Grenfell tower to scare women attending a political party meeting to discuss policy
  • assault women at different events
  • shout over the top of a roll call remembering murdered women
  • have placards telling women to ‘suck trans dick’ at a women’s conference where there are victims of rape, sex assault, sex abuse and male violence in attendance
  • write that slogan and pictures of penises on the side walk where women and children are walking
  • personally abuse and harass women and even black people with racial abuse as they enter a conference focusing on how to help women in prison
  • intimidate women by moving up to them with a disability walker screaming witch in their face
  • light a flare and wave it at women in protest March
  • hang effigies of women who fight for women’s rights

I am sure others can add here.

Yes. People attend meetings and events to directly protest them. That is the point. But ‘shouting’ is usually part of it. Well any protest I have attended.

These other actions above though…. that is a whole lot more. I haven’t seen many, if any, posts from trans activists denouncing any of those actions at all in my years on MN.

Datun · 19/03/2022 10:37

The beauty of Kellie is she doesn't let up. She made the transman's cognitive dissonance career right off the page when they inadvertently called Thomas he.

TinselAngel · 19/03/2022 10:39

@Helleofabore

I am still laughing that Pie thought that was the ultimate ‘gotcha’.

Did Kellie-Jay attend the swimming baths just to shout at a transgender person and anyone supporting them?

Really?

Shall we list all the recent events where trans activists have turned up to women’s meetings and events ‘just to shout at women and their supporters’?

But shouting facts and civil slogans is absolutely fine.

pie also knows just what else those particular trans activists do. Let’s list them.

  • intimidate women attending to try to scare them away.
  • bang on windows of venues shouting violence while women are speaking.
  • let of smoke bombs around Grenfell tower to scare women attending a political party meeting to discuss policy
  • assault women at different events
  • shout over the top of a roll call remembering murdered women
  • have placards telling women to ‘suck trans dick’ at a women’s conference where there are victims of rape, sex assault, sex abuse and male violence in attendance
  • write that slogan and pictures of penises on the side walk where women and children are walking
  • personally abuse and harass women and even black people with racial abuse as they enter a conference focusing on how to help women in prison
  • intimidate women by moving up to them with a disability walker screaming witch in their face
  • light a flare and wave it at women in protest March
  • hang effigies of women who fight for women’s rights

I am sure others can add here.

Yes. People attend meetings and events to directly protest them. That is the point. But ‘shouting’ is usually part of it. Well any protest I have attended.

These other actions above though…. that is a whole lot more. I haven’t seen many, if any, posts from trans activists denouncing any of those actions at all in my years on MN.

You missed off "Write a nasty blog slating trans widows and then hang around prominently outside a conference that you know trans widows attend"
TinselAngel · 19/03/2022 10:42

It's interesting that usually this type of thread about Posie would be 900 posts long by now and with the usual disrupters and some regular women here, saying how awful she is. That there is very little of this here suggests some women have changed their minds about her and some disrupters might have given up on this topic.

Helleofabore · 19/03/2022 10:53

I am still laughing that Pie thought that was the ultimate ‘gotcha’.

Did Kellie-Jay attend the swimming baths just to shout at a transgender person and anyone supporting them?

Really?

Shall we list all the recent events where trans activists have turned up to women’s meetings and events ‘just to shout at women and their supporters’?

But shouting facts and civil slogans is absolutely fine.
pie also knows just what else those particular trans activists do. Let’s list them.

  • intimidate women attending to try to scare them away.
  • bang on windows of venues shouting violence while women are speaking.
  • let of smoke bombs around Grenfell tower to scare women attending a political party meeting to discuss policy
  • assault women at different events
  • shout over the top of a roll call remembering murdered women
  • have placards telling women to ‘suck trans dick’ at a women’s conference where there are victims of rape, sex assault, sex abuse and male violence in attendance
  • write that slogan and pictures of penises on the side walk where women and children are walking
  • personally abuse and harass women and even black people with racial abuse as they enter a conference focusing on how to help women in prison
  • intimidate women by moving up to them with a disability walker screaming witch in their face
  • light a flare and wave it at women in protest March
  • hang effigies of women who fight for women’s rights
  • write a nasty blog slating trans widows and then hang around prominently outside a conference that you know trans widows attend

I am sure others can add here.

Yes. People attend meetings and events to directly protest them. That is the point. But ‘shouting’ is usually part of it. Well any protest I have attended.

These other actions above though…. that is a whole lot more. I haven’t seen many, if any, posts from trans activists denouncing any of those actions at all in my years on MN.

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lovelyweathertoday · 19/03/2022 11:33

@TinselAngel

It's interesting that usually this type of thread about Posie would be 900 posts long by now and with the usual disrupters and some regular women here, saying how awful she is. That there is very little of this here suggests some women have changed their minds about her and some disrupters might have given up on this topic.

The "be kind" folks haven't got an argument pro Thomas have they? I've seen one or two attempt a valiant "but it's complicated, we must include transwomen in sports" on the AIBU thread, but mostly they aren't even trying. It's so obviously unfair.

Rightsraptor · 19/03/2022 11:44

Dude bro questions how Posie knows that's not a woman. Did the swimmers ascertain that they'd be swimming in water and not gin, vodka or petrol before they took the plunge? No. They relied on surface characteristics. They know from years of swimming in it what water is, how it behaves, how it smells & tastes, its lack of viscosity etc. They have no need to run a chemical analysis before a race. As it is with humans. No need to be a biologist to know there was a male in that pool.

SmugglersHaunt · 19/03/2022 11:47

She's great. We need all sorts of voices to fight this insanity. If people think she's a bit much, then it's working.

NancyDrawed · 19/03/2022 11:53

I REALLY hate the 'have you inspected their genitals' line that gets trotted out - although to be fair to the TM, Posie had just said 'he's got a penis'.

But I repeatedly return to Maniac Magpie's 'are you genuinely saying that you have no idea which of your parents impregnated the other?' or words to that effect. If I ever get the chance I want to use that train of thought

'When you look at your parents, do you know which is your mum and which is your dad? Amazingly I can tell mine apart without checking their genitals!'

Datun · 19/03/2022 11:56

@Rightsraptor

Dude bro questions how Posie knows that's not a woman. Did the swimmers ascertain that they'd be swimming in water and not gin, vodka or petrol before they took the plunge? No. They relied on surface characteristics. They know from years of swimming in it what water is, how it behaves, how it smells & tastes, its lack of viscosity etc. They have no need to run a chemical analysis before a race. As it is with humans. No need to be a biologist to know there was a male in that pool.
From what other posters have said, that was a transman.

They don't seem to realise that relying on such a daft argument makes them look ridiculous.

Even their own ideology tells you that Lia Thomas is male. Thomas is a transwomen, the very first condition for which is being male.

Somanysocks · 19/03/2022 12:01

When you look at your parents, do you know which is your mum and which is your dad? Amazingly I can tell mine apart without checking their genitals!

That would be a whole different thread though Grin

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