Posie Parker Fox News

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www.foxnews.com/sports/lia-thomas-protesters-ncaa-women-swimming-victory-atlanta

So unapologetic "There's a man called Will Thomas, who's changed his name to Lia Thomas". No pissing around with the TW descriptor, I used to think she was a bit much, now I think she's just right and very needed.

Can we have a thread to follow her US trip please, she had a great Speaker Corner outside the White House too.

I aim to embody Posie's courage and immovable language in pretty much 100% of what I do.

Wish I could have been there to scream cheat at him too.

Good for Posie.
It's the threats and silencing that allow cheats like this to prosper and ruin women's sport.
That's why she's so successful - she won't be silenced.

From the first post-
I used to think she was a bit much, now I think she's just right and very needed.

What a shame that's the theme of the thread, I wish I never said that! I'm really excited to see what she does next in America.

I was at a few speakers corners and see the reaction of the brainwashed public when she is so forthright, and I was at the Lancet/ Labour Party protest and saw the reaction of passers by and felt they see us as transphobes and bad people. It's easy to say when you speak to people on here, who know about the issues and are in agreement of course she isn't 'a bit much'.

It is actually okay when you are naturally a non confrontational person primed to be 'nice' and you see actual people shocked at what they are hearing that you were uncomfortable with that at first. I didn't used to see the importance for such complete honesty, when it makes people brand you transphobic and not listen, but now (well actually quite a long time ago) I wince when I see 'male bodied' even written here among the non believers, I see that politeness is damaging. A lot of people are in agreement with KJ's stance and don't go around their own daily lives confronting people, if we were all instantly comfortable with that then we would all be KJK wouldn't we and we wouldn't find her bravery so remarkable.

Men can send rape and death threats to women, participate in women’s sports, use women’s toilets, use women’s rape crisis centres and refuges, rape women in women’s prisons but a woman is “a bit much” because she calls men he and calls a cheating man a cheat.

^ Apologies OP I didn’t see your last post before I posted. The thing is you can write beautiful, articulate and well-reasoned essays like JKR does and people still don’t read them or listen and still call her transphobic.

The cognitive dissonance of that journo she tells off is staggering.

"That's a woman". Er...but it's not though is it? He doesn't even sound convinced himself! He just sounds absolutely ridiculous.

Is "a bit much" code for insufficiently naice?

That “journalist” is Schuyler Bailar.

www.outsports.com/platform/amp/2021/1/15/22232709/schuyler-bailar-trans-swimmer-harvard-instagram

YEs, @PinkGinBigGrin - I found that my straight male "friend" who told me very clearly in a patronising tone that a male person is a woman got a bit flustered when I said

"would you fuck her?"
"what?"
"you're straight, you're sexually active, would you fuck her?"
"...."
"If she hits on you and you turn her down you're transphobic. If you don't fancy her you're transphobic. If you were a proper ally you'd have fucked her already. Your sexual preferences are bigoted, mate."
"..."

Interesting, @Misstache.

That person passes really well in the photo. Narrow hips for a female.

Would be interesting to see a group of male people with Schuylar in it.

And, there's been no fuss about this person competing with men? As in, "Schuylar can't qualify in the men's competition so there's no fuss needed".

Poor Schuylar, had nothing to retort to Posie. Must be pretty confronting to hear your first ever "no".

Posie is fearless and fearsome. All power to her.

Well I like her, I think the time to stop being nice passed a long time ago.

we need strong vocal self confidant women like her to step up and call ut the bullshit. we all need to be doing it.

Yes I think we need to remind ourselves that if people heard a man confidently and unapologetically expressing a view they agreed with, they probably wouldn't even think of saying he's 'a bit much'. Women are expected to express their views (if at all) in a deferential and conciliatory tone. Especially when talking to men.

If you were a proper ally you'd have fucked her already. 

I need to write all your post down and then find a suitable man to say it to @vivariumvivariumsvivaria

@TinselAngel

Is "a bit much" code for insufficiently naice?

I don't know if it usually is, when I said it I was referring to how Kellie Jay rejects the term 'transwoman' and 'male bodied' in favour of 'Man' every single time and has been insistent that there is no room for politeness and that that's what we all should do. She has called out GC women who use preferred terminology rather than literal truth.

Two years ago that seemed harsh to people who wanted to get their point across without offending, I though at that time that it was 'a bit much', now I agree with her (in fact quite a long time ago I did). I'm glad she stuck to her guns.

@DysonSphere

She has other opinions which can be perceived as a bit much. But that's the other side of the coin with very forthright people.

Other opinions?

Does she like Weetabix and banana now?

Because that is over the line. Well over. Right?

I hear you OP! Go Kelly! Packing up her kit bag and off she goes to the U S of A to stick it to the man…pretending to be a lady.

I admit I used to think she was a “bit much”.

Then after a few years of lurking in here, on Twitter, seeing the reactions to well thought out essays and comments by the likes of JKR, I realised that I’m going to be called transphobic no matter how nicely I put my views across so fuck it, might as well go all out and when it comes to this issue, call a spade a spade.

I think she’s fucking fabulous.

@Fairislefandango

Yes I think we need to remind ourselves that if people heard a man confidently and unapologetically expressing a view they agreed with, they probably wouldn't even think of saying he's 'a bit much'. Women are expected to express their views (if at all) in a deferential and conciliatory tone. Especially when talking to men.

Man calls out people on his own side for not going as far as him to make their point, even though they are in complete agreement with him. Yes I would probably think that man was being a bit much. It's not a sexed term.

It's not a sexed term.

I didn't mean that the phrase 'a bit much' was a sexed term. I was merely referring to the different standards and expectations society has about how men and women express their views.

I have no idea what you're on about @AlisonDonut

I like Kellie J, I've been a supporter for ages. I don't agree with all her opinions on other related topics. Some could be perceived as a bit 'too much' for some people, and frankly for me at times, but that doesn't take away from the great work she does defending women's rights or my admiration of her. With very forthright people you often have to take it or leave it. But that is the sort of person needed during battles.

I don't know where bananas and weetabix come into it

I agree with all those saying it took them a while to get over their female socialisation and just call a man a man, but we got there and PP's forthright honesty helped us. You get called a transphobic terf for any minor infraction of the dogma. If I'm going to be called a bigot and lectured by an achingly obnoxious MRA scrote because I used 'transwoman' instead of 'trans woman', I'll just use 'man' and be done with it. Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb.

Does she like Weetabix and banana now?

Because that is over the line. Well over. Right?

Agreed. Bridge too far.

The video frustrated me a bit with that bloke in the audience "I didn't realize you could tell someone's sex just by looking at their face" PP's reaction was emotional and palpable but unscientific.

The face is pretty much one of the keys ways we humans can identify who is of one sex or another.

Babies and dogs can tell the sex of people from their face alone.

(This has been tested on dogs with a strong male/female preference being shown a photo). (Most babies have a female preference up until 3 months old).

The swimming cheat has a man's face. Don't need to inspect the genitals. The man in the audience has a man's face and we can all see it even with his mask on. It's gaslighting to pretend we can't tell people's sex from their faces.