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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie Parker Fox News

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IdentifyingAsAPrincess · 18/03/2022 09:04

www.foxnews.com/sports/lia-thomas-protesters-ncaa-women-swimming-victory-atlanta

So unapologetic "There's a man called Will Thomas, who's changed his name to Lia Thomas". No pissing around with the TW descriptor, I used to think she was a bit much, now I think she's just right and very needed.

Can we have a thread to follow her US trip please, she had a great Speaker Corner outside the White House too.

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Slothtoes · 18/03/2022 13:46

Agreed. These are extreme times of jeopardy for women’s rights. Once established norms take hold, it’s even harder to change them. And she’s a force to be reckoned with. Thank you, Posie.

Sexnotgender · 18/03/2022 13:53

PP is an absolute star. I wish I was half as bold as she is.

Giggorata · 18/03/2022 13:54

Posie is a modern day suffragette, and I admire her courage.

CanIPleaseHaveOne · 18/03/2022 14:05

@AlisonDonut

Also did she ask that man's permission to record and upload him to the internet?

Now, now you are worried about consent? OH MY DAYS.

Did Lia ask the young womens' permission to expose their penis in the changing rooms, and compete against and beat them at what started out as a female race?

Now, now you are worried about consent? OH MY DAYS.

GrinGrinGrin

Humbold · 18/03/2022 14:09

The fact that she ended up sat behind Schuyler Bailar - was that accidental or engineered by one or other of the parties? Either way it will totally be picked up on and dictate how this story is presented.

The fact is, a trans man competing against other men is different because in high level competitive swimming, the trans man will not beat a male swimmer. Yes, they, as a fantastic swimmer, could tan the arse of a male Sunday swimmer but not a fellow elite male athlete. Lia on the other hand as a trans woman who has been a high level male swimmer (although a somewhat mediocre one) WILL tan the arse of any female swimmer they compete against at this level. Perhaps they may occasionally lose to a female swimmer if they are having a bad day (or deliberately not wanting to come first every time) but that would be exceptional.

But this will be used as a Gotcha for sure by TRAs. How dare the nasty woman make Schuyler feel bad? And Ha! She couldn't even tell that Schuyler was a transman. Schuyler is a beloved transman and is a spokesperson for trans participation in sport. When the arguments for trans participation in sport are trotted out, it's the likes of Schuyler that are used in the campaigns. Not the likes of Lia. And these types of campaign insinuate that transphobes are running around and stealing the gym kits off trans children and saying they can't have a kick around in the park because some nasty t**fs' hate them and don't want them to participate in grass root sports.

Sigh. Anyway getting back to the fundamental truths and putting media personalities and optics to one side - it is patently unfair that Lia is allowed to participate in the female swimming races. How any sane, intelligent person, be they woman, man, trans woman or trans man, can disagree with this is unbelievable.

What anyone does or doesn't like about PP is irrelevant beyond the fact that she's out there giving this further daylight.

Cailleach1 · 18/03/2022 14:28

@MargaritaPie Did Kellie-Jay attend the swimming baths just to shout at a transgender person and anyone supporting them?

This reminds me of the sports journalist David Walsh. I remember an interview where he was tough on Lance Armstrong. Presumably to tackle him with the tough questions as there were 'suspicions' about Armstrong.

In the article below, Walsh was talking about drugs in cycling. Very cross that the men's cycling was unfair - with people cheating by introducing substances into their body.

"French Customs exposed it, French police exposed it," Walsh says. "We journalists were really embarrassed because that Tour showed we hadn't been doing our job. We were writing about people as champions and they weren't champions at all. They were frauds."

What goes around comes around. Won't go into the apparent irony (some might even strikes them as hypocrisy) of David Walsh when it comes to unfairness in women's sports. KJK as champion of fairness for women is just calling out the fraud(s). Certainly can't rely on the integrity of the sports journalists who don't seem to compute women as deserving of the same fairness that men deserve.

www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/74261332/david-walsh-lance-armstrong-is-gone-but-cycling-is-still-dirty

Gumbomambo · 18/03/2022 14:29

“I’m not a vet but I know what a dog is”. I just need to say it again and again. Please please print me up a t shirt.

Cailleach1 · 18/03/2022 14:42

Thought I'd better add in David Walshes views on women's sports having to be inclusive of men. I don't know if that is because David Walsh is credulous (and came down in the last rain shower) and thinks that is not unfair for women. Or, if it because he doesn't think women deserve the fairness he is so vocal about for men's sports.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/debates-over-laurel-hubbards-olympic-games-inclusion-must-accept-that-she-has-earned-right-to-compete-z2c7fzcc7

MalagaNights · 18/03/2022 15:44

twitter.com/madeleinekearns/status/1504541889999085575?t=CRNOd6XILM56KidAK_WL6Q&s=19

She's getting picked up by the right wing media in the USA.
Ben Shapiro retweeted this.

MalagaNights · 18/03/2022 15:47

This was an interesting response to that clip...

twitter.com/FlareGunDebate/status/1504609602616274955?t=adQ2bSWljW7iKgbQ45Pg9Q&s=19

beastlyslumber · 18/03/2022 16:22

"I'm not a vet but I know what a dog is" deserves to go viral! Love her.

ScreamingMeMe · 18/03/2022 17:16

A very illustrative photo.

Posie Parker Fox News
NancyDrawed · 18/03/2022 17:16

@Gumbomambo

“I’m not a vet but I know what a dog is”. I just need to say it again and again. Please please print me up a t shirt.
@Gumbomambo

Ta-da!!

www.adulthumanfemale.store/product-page/i-m-not-a-vet

FrancescaContini · 18/03/2022 17:22

@ScreamingMeMe

A very illustrative photo.
Shock

PP is to be admired.

FrancescaContini · 18/03/2022 17:23

@NancyDrawed

I love this! Thank you!

ArabellaStrange · 18/03/2022 17:33

Suffragettes chained themselves to railings, broke the windows of shops, were arrested on a regular basis, endured forced feeding to break their hunger strikes and threw themselves in front of the King's racehorse in order to bring attention to their cause.

And Posy is a 'bit much' to some people?

Imo she's not enough.

IdentifyingAsAPrincess · 18/03/2022 17:59

@ArabellaStrange

Suffragettes chained themselves to railings, broke the windows of shops, were arrested on a regular basis, endured forced feeding to break their hunger strikes and threw themselves in front of the King's racehorse in order to bring attention to their cause.

And Posy is a 'bit much' to some people?

Imo she's not enough.

You could always do those things if you think she isn't enough.
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DysonSphere · 18/03/2022 18:25

I need a cup with that lim

DysonSphere · 18/03/2022 18:28

Ugh

A cup with that sentence!!

Sophoclesthefox · 18/03/2022 18:47

She just has a knack of cutting through to the nub of the issue, doesn’t she? Everyone there, whether spectating or competing, knew what was happening, but none of them felt able to speak the truth, and she did. I don’t think anyone should have the least obligation to sit naicely and politely while talented young women are gaslit and robbed like this.

I’d love to have the ovaries to do what she does.

Well played, Posie!

ArabellaStrange · 18/03/2022 18:56

Probs not all but will definitely give throwing myself in front of the Queen's horse a ponder.

SwissBall · 18/03/2022 19:08

America has very different freedom of speech rules than Europe. She is not breaking the law saying lia Thompson is a man. He is a man.

I don’t think you would break the law here by calling LT a man.

Misstache · 18/03/2022 19:13

All champions are required to appear in the media room for interviews after their event - except LT, who was allowed to do an interview pool side and then dodge the media.

Not only are women being threatened for speaking out, but LT is being allowed to make their own rules. You think the women wouldn’t maybe want to go lie down or stretch or relax after their event instead of sitting around in the media room (talking to no-one since LT has taken up all the oxygen)? Remember how when Naomi Osaka had mental health and anxiety she was forced to quit the French Open because she didn’t want to do media? But LT can avoid any questioning and only do puff pieces like SI…so everyone who says LT is just following the rules, LT gets their own rules.

So yeah, women have to yell from the crowd because LT is refusing to speak to anyone who might challenge them on fairness.

EricCartmansMagicalUnderpants · 18/03/2022 19:14

Did Kellie-Jay attend the swimming baths just to shout at a transgender person and anyone supporting them?

Nah, she just went to draw attention to the fact that there is cheat in the women's swimming team. Fair play to KJ as well. She's only saying what everyone knows to be true.

Also did she ask that man's permission to record and upload him to the internet?

Permission not required.

dementedma · 18/03/2022 19:16

She's getting a massive amount of abuse from the pro trans lobby, needless to say