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StellaAndCrow · 17/03/2022 12:19

@Fairislefandango

Except that one poster who is going along preaching at everyone that it’s more inclusive to pander to the tiny minority who prefer to be called bleeders than the huge majority who prefer to retain their fucking dignity!

Yes, there's always one. Sometimes a lot more than one. And look at her picture- perfectly womanly-looking woman. But no, she's non-binary, because that makes her more speshull I expect.

Presumably this is meant to be inclusive to transmen (females who want to be seen as male). Do we have any evidence that they want to be known as "bleeders"? It seems unlikely. And since when were people so concerned about women's feelings?

Or is it more about blurring the boundaries between men and women so men can say they're women, and don't get upset about not having the same biological functions?

Palmfrond · 17/03/2022 12:50

Sorry not read the pps, this has probably been done to death, but;

'Most shitters know how they are impacted by taking a shit, but unfortunately aren't in touch with their feelings & symptoms when they’re not taking a shit. We are here to change that.'

See? Completely legit!

Palmfrond · 17/03/2022 12:52

PS I’m currently taking a dump, and thus experiencing complete clarity.

Have a nice day.

Kennykenkencat · 17/03/2022 13:49

I think in companies rushing to be inclusive they are doing the very opposite by excluding any one who doesn’t come under the minority tag

KittenKong · 17/03/2022 13:54

Because they don’t actually think. Lack of critical thought and blind obedience.

DameHelena · 17/03/2022 14:26

@Palmfrond

PS I’m currently taking a dump, and thus experiencing complete clarity.

Have a nice day.

Thank you for sharing 😆

Blackandwhitehorse · 17/03/2022 14:30

I have foolishly got into a debate with someone who can’t define trans or woman but also just completely mis represents my comments. She can’t seem to take in that I also agree with abolishing sex based stereotypes- so exhausting!

nepeta · 17/03/2022 14:37

@Blackandwhitehorse

I have foolishly got into a debate with someone who can’t define trans or woman but also just completely mis represents my comments. She can’t seem to take in that I also agree with abolishing sex based stereotypes- so exhausting!

If we abolish biological sex as a determinant of what a woman is, then what will take its place? I see no alternative to sex-based stereotypes there. Women will then be all feminine people (passive, submissive, emotional and nurturing) or people who are concerned with their appearance or people who care about children and so on.

Original poster

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 17/03/2022 17:36

@Seema1234

**I myself am a woman. But I understand many of our customers are not

. Er, you're selling tampons so most of your customers are women. I think Danielle needs a biology lesson.

You may as well argue over religion, I'm afraid. Sorry! You're using the word woman as it was always used, and is still used today by the majority of the English speaking world: adult human female/female adult human/female adult.

Until recently, the only part of the definition that was at all contentious was the adult.

Daniella hangs out in the circle where woman= a type of gender identity. From her point of view, she would say most of her customers are women, some are men, and some are outside the gender binary, but all are female.

However, this creates a gap in language when you want to talk about the needs of adult female humans, and leaves her without a decent noun to address her customers by. It's either go full Ferengi, or use something else, which is where "bleeders" came in.

How do I know this? Because I used to be "Daniella" and used to insist that female humans could be men and male humans could be women.

OP posts:

sophienelisse · 17/03/2022 17:57

I thought they would have deleted that post by now but no. Still going on, comments still rolling in.

They haven't even acknowledged any of the feedback.

There is a new advert as if they have had no feedback and it still says bleeders.

DPotter · 17/03/2022 18:02

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

Because I used to be "Daniella" and used to insist that female humans could be men and male humans could be women

Out of interest - what changed your mind ?

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 17/03/2022 18:24

Oh yes, I'd be interested in what changed your mind too, if you're able to comment, @PurgatoryOfPotholes.

I have many bright, capable friends who just deny the evidence of their own eyeballs over this stuff. And it FASCINATES me.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 17/03/2022 18:30

What is wonderful about all this is that a majority of those women posting are younger women. The dreary monitors who try to police this board regularly berate us in ageist terms. What they don't realise (while JKR spotted it) is that there are hundreds of thousands of women now aware of what is happening. And for every woman who speaks to her friend, mum, neighbour, colleague, husband, children, that doubles and trebles.
It's the overreach that will sort eventually sort this out. And all the useful idiots like Yopie who believe the fantasy that inclusion means alienating women, simply encourage more angry women to speak out.

Queenoftheashes · 17/03/2022 18:40

I used to be TWAW too but I think mumsnet helped gradually deprogramme me. The TRA argument just has too many holes. And I couldn’t square the moral high ground with trans women beating up “terfs” and filming it for Instagram

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/03/2022 19:14

They don't advertise tampons like they did ten years ago.

Love that ad

KimikosNightmare · 17/03/2022 21:35

@ThatsNotMyGolem

The whole concept of "Yoppie" is tired and unnecessary. We all know what periods are, and what the stigma is that surrounds menstruation. Alienating the target audience is just further stupidity.

Completely unnecessary. Who needs these products posted to them? Every supermarket, corner shop and garage forecourt has them on visible display. Yoppie if anything perpetuates any remaining stigma by ludicrously marketing them in this way.

George Osborne had no difficulty talking about tampons.

PaddleBoardingMomma · 17/03/2022 21:38

Eagerly awaiting their response to this one... will update 🙄

"Most bleeders know how they are impacted by their period"

PaddleBoardingMomma · 17/03/2022 21:54

Which one of you legends commented this under her wedding day pic of her and her husband? 🤣

"What song played at the wedding? When an ejaculator loves a bleeder by Percy Sledge?"

KittenKong · 17/03/2022 22:11

Reviewing… learning experience…moving forward…

Bla bla bla

Heard it all before - like they didn’t even consider. Or maybe they thought they could get a load of publicity, fall on their swords and beg forgiveness and we’d all, sheep-like, follow them?

Nah. Never underestimate your target audience.

Blackandwhitehorse · 17/03/2022 22:18

Interesting she’s replying to messages! I’m actually pleasantly surprised they are leaving the comments open.

I’ve had a wild ride today with these she/hers and they/thems 😅 after trying to get a definition I’m now told there is no definition ‘you’re trans because your trans’

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 17/03/2022 22:32

@Queenoftheashes

I used to be TWAW too but I think mumsnet helped gradually deprogramme me. The TRA argument just has too many holes. And I couldn’t square the moral high ground with trans women beating up “terfs” and filming it for Instagram

TRA argument doesn't have enough holes if you ask me. I've got three. They've got two.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 17/03/2022 22:36

@Queenoftheashes thank you, I think that MN is the biggest resource for peaking that we have.

I work in sexual health so I have a good handle on what sex is and I started off, like most, with #bekind. Poor, troubled dear, we can accommodate him and make him feel better.

And then I realised what a fetish is because I saw it play out with me in it.

I'm an HCP working in sexual health. If I didn't get it at first then I am quite sure that most women take a while to realise "holy crap, he's saving this image for a wank"

And, now, I'm a evangelist

NitroNine · 17/03/2022 23:13

@scoobydontdothat
I hope you got away in time. Baffles me that in this day & age a company would upload media with the potential to trigger seizures in people with photosensitive epilepsy - I know it’s rare, but in the collective consciousness it is very much a thing.

Have you been able to request they take it down for being a seizure trigger? (Also, Insta can get in the bin for still not having done anything to make the platform safer despite actual years of epilepsy charities begging them to.)

Furries · 18/03/2022 01:50

I don’t “do” social media - part from MN. I’d never heard of the brand before. But I’ll remember them now if they ever crop up.

playingdevilsavocado · 18/03/2022 02:06

'Most bleeders know how they are impacted by their period, but unfortunately aren't in touch with their feelings & symptoms in the other phases of their cycle. We are here to change that.'

I am struggling to know whether I am more offended by
A) Being called a bleeder
B) The arrogant presumption that I am not in touch with my feelings in the other phases of my cycle - WTAF?
or C) that there is anything her company can do to change that (other than seemingly piss me off cycle-round)