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Why surrogacy should be banned

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DomesticatedZombie · 10/02/2022 19:51

  • article from Stefanie Bode.

'It’s always harmful. It harms our health, it exploits our bodies; it’s dependent on global inequalities and makes them worse; it violates our dignity, our physical integrity and many others of our human rights. It is a form of slavery (of women and children), and obviously it’s violence against women and children. It makes babies into commodities. It’s very cruel and inhumane to women and babies to separate a baby from its mother. '

www.filia.org.uk/latest-news/2022/2/8/why-surrogacy-should-be-banned

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OhHolyJesus · 23/02/2022 14:13

@butnobodytoldme

Thanks for this, I think that was in reply to my question about the comment on the article shared here.

Surrogacy in Ukraine - Times article www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4486282-Surrogacy-in-Ukraine-Times-article

As Putin has now invaded I can't imagine the situations for the pregnant surrogate mothers are about to improve. Whilst pregnant they are least stand a chance of being helped because of the 'precious cargo' their wombs carry and I'm glad the anon woman wasn't forced to leave her family and give birth in Georgia as the commissioning parents were trying to force her to do (I say forced, the article says 'compelled', as in legally compelled).

The comments in that article seem to be relatively split, but I was pleased to see a far few calling surrogacy what it is.

OhHolyJesus · 23/02/2022 14:21

Surrogacy agencies in the U.K. no longer require women to have had experience pregnancy and birth in order to apply to be considered for a surrogacy arrangement.

COTS was the agency Kim Eldridge, the 'Travelling Surrogate' was with, and this relatively new agency also encourages women who are 'childless by choice' to have children for other people.

With Kim, I can understand it to a degree - her mother did it in the same way (her egg, so Kim's siblings) 6 times so Kim saw all this growing up. Obviously the situation and background of this woman who has just been 'matched' isn't mentioned. My concern is, if you don't want children yourself, why are you compelled to do it for others, what would be your reasons for going through all this when you have no idea what you're letting yourself in for? How can you give informed consent when you haven't been pregnant and been through labour? Is consent ok if it's not informed consent?

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Syeknom · 24/02/2022 07:25

Cbeebies pushing surrogacy. What happens if something goes wrong in pregnancy for the mother of the "lovely family"?

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OhHolyJesus · 27/02/2022 15:55

Horrible isn't is @Syeknom

Linking to the thread

CBeebies promoting surrogacy www.mumsnet.com/Talk/feminism/4489939-CBeebies-promoting-surrogacy

TheLoneRager · 07/03/2022 07:32

The Times seems hell bent on promoting surrogacy these days. Another fluff piece and comments turned off - I wonder why.

Peter Dundas: ‘People think, oh, same-sex couples — they buy a baby’.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/78526d60-9944-11ec-84fe-a2a0efa555d1?shareToken=a87391f83ddecdc438140e80b31e86d00_

TheLoneRager · 07/03/2022 07:35

Twitter thread breaking it down.

"Kim Kardashian tried to give us her surrogate" - how can anyone write or say such a thing. Do surrogate mothers get any say in this I wonder?

twitter.com/msmerrythought/status/1500609109065936901?s=21

FannyCann · 07/03/2022 07:54

Jennifer Lahl calls out surrogacy for what it is and the French Charlie Hebdo responds!

She really is influential!

twitter.com/jenniferlahl/status/1499972245094998023?s=21

FannyCann · 07/03/2022 08:03

Also in France - they had a great demonstration against surrogacy.
Very visual. There is strong opposition there.

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