Mridul Wadwha and the thought police

[IamSarah]

Great article in Spiked Online about Mridul Wadwha's latest shenanigans:

www.spiked-online.com/2022/02/01/the-thought-police-are-here/

To briefly summarise:

• Mridul was born male

• Mridul is legally male with no GRC

• Mridul is the CEO of Edinburgh Rape crisis

• Mridul claims women who want female only rape crisis services are bigoted and should 'reframe their trauma'

• The CEO of a domestic violence charity Nicola Murray stopped referring women to Mridul's rape crisis service due to Mridul's misogyny

• Mridul reported Nicola Murray to the police for committing a hate crime

• The police actually visited Nicola Murray to question her thinking

crikey

being able to tell what sex someone is isn't racism

give over with your bullshit

MW is a man - a man who has gone to great lengths to bulldoze their way into womens rape services seemingly entirely for their own benefit. MW patently doesn’t give a fuck about biological women and how they feel about it. So we will question away

I find this case absolutely baffling.

A long, long time ago the UK Parliament legislated to make it illegal for employers to advertise a job and say they wanted a man or a woman.

They agreed at the time that there were a few very specific cases where they could see it was still OK for the employer to do this, and one of them was where a rape crisis service wanted a woman to work directly with survivors of sexual abuse. So there was a specific exemption for cases like that. This has survived through various changes in the law since then, replacing the original act.

Fast forward to two separate services advertising posts of this nature. In both cases they said the job was only open to female applicants. In both cases MW applied. MW is not female by birth and has no GRC. In both cases MW got the job. In the earlier case it may be that the service genuinely didn't realise that MW was male, as this was some years ago, before MW became quite a high profile figure in Scottish politics. In the case of Edinburgh Rape Crisis they most assuredly did know this, and yet they went ahead and appointed MW.

Why and how?

I am not sure why Barley is now attempting to educate us on Hindu theology, and I think Barley is gravely mistaken on some issues here. If MW had used a reference to a Christian deity, MW would have received a lot more pushback. There are various musicians whose careers will serve to illustrate that!

I don't believe saying that women have the right to request a female medical examiner after rape is racism (or Islamophobia), and posting pictures of art is not a convincing argument that it is so.

It is just another one of barley’s twisting posts to suit their agenda. Which seems to be to shame women… but I could be wrong.

Sadly for Barley, I have seen enough racism from TRAs. Like assuming mixed race women are wearing fake tan and mocking them for it (repeated examples) which is both racist and misogynistic.

@Helleofabore

It is just another one of barley’s twisting posts to suit their agenda. Which seems to be to shame women… but I could be wrong.

I'm not twisting anything. This is the quote you appeared to object to in which Mridul clearly articulates she is angry about the racism she recevies:

The goddess Kali destroys evil and she is violent. Evil can be destroyed without violence which is what I do. Kali is just the manifestation of that
energy. Your racist, transphobic, islamophobic trolling only keeps me going. keep at it, the hate burns you not me.

I just asked why you have a problem with that?

It's apparent that many of the scolding posts on here from anti women posters come via google (other search engines are available) .
Which is why they rarely demonstrate any analysis or rationale and are certainly nothing to do with feminism or women's rights, they're more a series of attempted gotchas.

Are you obecting to an Asian woman being angry about racism now?

Who is the Asian woman you're referring to barley?

@OldCrone

Are you obecting to an Asian woman being angry about racism now?

Who is the Asian woman you're referring to barley?

Oh how clever. You want me to say Mridul so you can say ha she's not a women. Bored of your infantile games now.

They’re not a woman hth

Oh how clever. You want me to say Mridul so you can say ha she's not a women. Bored of your infantile games now.

Not a woman neither are they Muslim, so not quite sure why they mention islamophobia?

I will spell it out for the readers.

Twisting a tweet that also mentions transphobia, knowing Mridul Wadhwa’s historical opinion of women who don’t agree that Wadhwa is a woman, is a disingenuous move.

Of course people on this thread, including me, would not be questioning their discussions on racism. Well, maybe some would if they have information that is relevant. But it is not the focus of this thread which is this person’s attitude toward women.

And you barley are simply trying distractive measures yet again to derail a thread. Sparple, sparple, sparple.

Tell us barley do you think that Mridul Wadhwa has cares for women? Or do they always prioritise their own political agenda progressing trans people even when the conflict between the two groups is clear?

No ‘has’ needed.

And for further clarity,

Tell us barley do you think that Mridul Wadhwa has cares for women? Or do they always prioritise their own political agenda progressing trans people even when the conflict between the two groups is clear?

This person has been clear that women not agreeing that they are ‘a woman’ in any way, are transphobic. Hence the topic of their tweet.

They agreed at the time that there were a few very specific cases where they could see it was still OK for the employer to do this, and one of them was where a rape crisis service wanted a woman to work directly with survivors of sexual abuse. So there was a specific exemption for cases like that. This has survived through various changes in the law since then, replacing the original act

Exactly, Gaspode.

And the extraordinary thing is that despite this pedigree, certain groups of people are hell bent on shaming women for asking that this extremely compassionate and inclusive exception is applied as it was intended to be, to protect traumatised women. They are suggesting that women who do so are motivated solely by general bigotry. And if we object to a circumstance where someone has deliberately sought to subvert and evade this exception, that we could only have some nefarious, bigoted motivation again against that particular person, probably because we’re racist.

It’s jaw dropping. It is profoundly mendacious and misogynistic.

Of course people on this thread, including me, would not be questioning their discussions on racism. Well, maybe some would if they have information that is relevant. But it is not the focus of this thread which is this person’s attitude toward women.

So to be clear you have no objection to her invoking Kali when she is discussing the racism she suffers? It's only when she's angry about transphobia this is a problem. How strange, gender critical people keep insisting to me that the gender critical movement is not transphobic, so I would have thought you'd be applauding her.

Tell us barley do you think that Mridul Wadhwa has cares for women?

I think she cares for all women, including trans women. She wouldn't have lasted five minutes in the sector if she didn't.

If MW cared for women on any level they wouldn’t have taken a job designated for women when they are both biologically and legally a man

Nor would they make comments about women needing to be “educated” because they don’t want to be counselled by a man

Or be outraged that female rape victims should have the right to a biological woman to examine then after a rape

Yes the care just shines out!!!

I think that person does not give one shiny shit about women. That person has made that clear many many times.

There are images of Kalli without a severed head I believe. The choice was deliberate and threatening. No I think it is inappropriate to post it in this way. Particularly since women have been on the receiving end of death and rape threats for not agreeing that males can be woman. And this person would be well aware of those images, they work in services dealing with violence against women.

You are the one that keeps missing those connections barley. Almost like your history of using denigrating and demonising language against posters on this board.

Please do maintain this direction of posting. But I am going to stick to discussing this person’s current and historical treatment of women.

I think she cares for all women, including trans women. She wouldn't have lasted five minutes in the sector if she didn't.

I think a centre determined to follow their political goals aligned with the current government will hire whoever is politically beneficial to them. Women are less inclined to ignore this person’s background compared to males heavily invested in this movement and will continue to call it out. While other people will keep trying distractive techniques.

@barleybadminton

Tell us barley do you think that Mridul Wadhwa has cares for women?

I think she cares for all women, including trans women. She wouldn't have lasted five minutes in the sector if she didn't.

And thus we see how MW's career might have lasted. A procession of people making every excuse, no matter what MW does or says, all thinking that MW would have been managed out by predecessors if there was really an issue here.

MW resigned from a political party to demonstrate their opposition to a female rape victim having a legal right to request that a fellow female is the one to perform an incredibly invasive medical examination to collect evidence of the rape.

What kind of mind can deny that right to request a female examiner to a shaking, traumatised woman on the worst day of her life?

@barleybadminton

Tell us barley do you think that Mridul Wadhwa has cares for women?

I think she cares for all women, including trans women. She wouldn't have lasted five minutes in the sector if she didn't.

That is not what women who have received counselling from Mridul felt.

What kind of mind can deny that right to request a female examiner to a shaking, traumatised woman on the worst day of her life when that person is also the CEO of a rape crisis centre?

No more needs to be said. I think we just post this over and over again.