Male midwife facing 29 charges of misconduct,

[TheLoneRager]

NMC hearing started today, expected to last four days, of a senior male midwife accused of, among other things, having taken pictures of two women having caesarian sections without their permission and also filmed himself performing a sex act in a hospital toilet.
He faces 29 misconduct charges.

Will be watching this case this week.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10439033/Bullying-male-midwife-alleged-taken-pictures-two-women-having-Caesarean-sections.html

[whatfreshheck]

So is yours. Sexist much?

[whatfreshheck]

Maryandhernet- not answering my question

[doublemonkey]

When you consider there's only 50 male midwives in the country that's a lot of dodgy ones..

[AuntyBumBum]

Tell you what, no medical professional should be able to treat the opposite sex. How about that?

This has already been discussed on the thread, and it's really not so outlandish as you seem to think. Dignity and peace of mind for female patients without needing to argue and fight for it. And as an indirect advantage for women, much more access to work in medicine: a medical profession made up of more than 50% women (I'm guessing that the female half of the population require on average more medical attention than men, not least because of childcare, and the fact that they take more responsibility for their own health than men.)

[MaryAndHerNet]

@whatfreshheck

So is yours. Sexist much?

Who poses more risk?

Men against women?
Women against men?

Who would be safer if more guards were put in place surrounding intimate healthcare?
Females or males?

Not sexist to state facts.

[MrBlobbyLivesNextDoor]

Only one of 50? I had a male midwife. I was convinced he was taking photos of me when in was giving birth. I complained about it to one of the female midwives straight afterwards, who told me to escalate it. I never did that as I was exhausted and overwhelmed from the birth, and tried to convince myself that it was probably nothing. I still regret that I didn't take that further, although at the time I just couldn't. I wish she had escalated it for me.

[AuntyBumBum]

@whatfreshheck

Have a look at the NMC hearings page- there are an awful lot of female nurses on there.

You have to ask why a woman would come onto the feminist boards to attack women.

[doublemonkey]

Also if there's only 50 male midwives then that 4% stat from earlier is incorrect. It's more like 8 %.

[whatfreshheck]

AuntieBumBum because my many male colleagues are lovely people and some on here are being utterly ridiculous and suggesting they have ulterior motives.

[whatfreshheck]

Also since when was it "attacking women" to point out they they are also being found abusing patients.

[MaryAndHerNet]

@whatfreshheck

AuntieBumBum because my many male colleagues are lovely people and some on here are being utterly ridiculous and suggesting they have ulterior motives.

Can you read minds?

Can you see into their psyche?

Or are you basing that opinion in your observations?

You think a pedophiles friends knew he was a pedophile or did they think he was a lovely caring guy with no ulterior motives?

[whatfreshheck]

What?? Now you are suggesting they are pedophiles? Get a grip ffs.

[MarbleQueen]

Mrblobby that is awful.

[whatfreshheck]

I'm sorry that you are so broken that you think all men in healthcare might be sex pests or perverts. I really hope you manage to move past it. My husband and colleagues are good, kind people who do an excellent job of caring for the men and women in their care. Especially over the last two years. Take care.

[MaryAndHerNet]

@whatfreshheck

What?? Now you are suggesting they are pedophiles? Get a grip ffs.

No.

Where was that suggested?
You misunderstood.

[Wreath21]

I had a male midwife when my DC was born. He was lovely. That some individuals in particular jobs are dangerous and abusive does not mean that anyone who works in such a job is likely to be so, just because of their sex/gender/sexuality/religion/ethnicity or any other, you know, protected characteristic.

While bigotry is often born out of fear, that doesn't make it excusable.

[MrBlobbyLivesNextDoor]

@whatfreshheck

AuntieBumBum because my many male colleagues are lovely people and some on here are being utterly ridiculous and suggesting they have ulterior motives.

Some men do have ulterior motives. Fact. It's not about you and your lovely husband is it ffs. Not all men are sex offenders. But the majority of sex offenders are men. Hth.

[Pellewsmate]

If most women were honest, they would not want a male midwife. I feel for any women who has accepted a male midwife in fear of looked bigoted.
It isn't about not wanting to accept medical help from a male, I am happy to have doctors or nurses of either sex. But for an experience that is wholly based on being a woman I would want to be supported by other women.

[Whatwouldscullydo]

Yet again we have posters who are comings onto a thread regarding abuse by men and going " but what about my husband"

These women do not exist for ukir husbands to gain their " I'm one of the good guys" badges OK.

A labouring and post woman deserves better than to have to make the men in your lives feel better about themselves.

[MrBlobbyLivesNextDoor]

I had a male midwife when my DC was born. He was lovely

Mine sat at the end of the room, at the bottom end of the bed, with his smart phone pointed between my legs, passing time away on his phone. I didn't even have a smart phone then and didn't know the full capabilities of them. But I do know I felt deeply uncomfortable about the positioning of the phone that didn't feel right. Yours might of been lovely. I didn't come away feeling mine was lovely. 14 years later it still makes me feel sick. There was no option to change. There wasn't enough midwives on that night so I was stuck with him.

[UltraVividLament]

While bigotry is often born out of fear, that doesn't make it excusable.

Stop scolding women for being able to recognise the real risk that men can pose as a class. Risk assessment and safeguarding isn't bigotry fgs. Neither is women individually deciding that male HCPs for certain situations is not what they would willingly choose.

[TheGreatATuin]

No one thinks all men in healthcare are sex pests or is claiming that male people shouldn't treat women. What a load of nonsense.
It's a hell of a jump to take what we are saying about midwives whose entire role deals with women at a time when they are most vulnerable and may feel exposed, and then complain that we're applying it to all men in the medical profession.
I had a difficult birth and it felt like I had midwives in my room every five minutes putting their fingers inside me to check what was going on. At best, that's awkward and uncomfortable. At worst, it's deeply upsetting and it makes a huge difference to most women whether that person is male or female.
Saying women want female people when they are at their most vulnerable is not saying that all men are predators. Not even close.
Would you say the same thing to women wanting a female doctor to examine her after a rape? Or a female practicioner to do her smear?
There are specific medical roles where women are vulnerable or simply want privacy from men. Pregnancy and childbirth are one of those. If you're #notallmenning women about this, then I do wonder WTF you're doing on a feminist board.

[Gonnagetgoing]

This is exactly the reason why I don't think there should be male midwives practising.

I suppose there'll be a lot of woke posters who say oh it's only 2 out of 50 who've done things wrong but that's 2 too many in my opinion.

[Mummyoflittledragon]

Wow! Despicable predators. Perhaps there are great male midwives but I would not have liked a male midwife either. The care women receive from them is far more intimate than that from gynaecologists. And I speak as someone, who had a male gynaecologist for ivf treatment, who also performed intimate biopsies and surgery on me and another, who performed major abdominal surgery on me.