Jennifer Swayne arrested for stickering.

[Thelnebriati]

Jennifer Swayne has been arrested on charges of vandalism, ‘hate crimes’ and public order offences. Police searched her house and removed several sheets of stickers.

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@PaleGreenGhost

The reason Barley feels comfortable here is because its a female dominated group. Imagine if Barley went onto other sites used by other marginalised groups to discuss their struggle for rights. Would he feel comfortable to display the same level of diversion and whataboutery? No. Because every other marginalised group also contains men.

Anyone who doesn't understand structural oppression isn't really a supporter of rights for marginalised groups anyway. Far more likely they've just fallen in with something they've been told is "progressive".

Please don't assume either my sex, gender or pronouns thank you.

The "spraying stickers" in their statement is really bothering me. How the hell do you "spray" sharp objects to a fucking lamppost?

In the interview with Savage Minds she says some of the posters she put up were A3 in size so presumably they weren't all on lampposts. It wouldn't be difficult to stick some pins or slivers of glass round the edge before putting them up.

I share the scepticism however, although I do think it's noteworthy that the police statement says that this is something which has been found rather than something reported. That suggests they have been found by a police officer or credible witness like the council street cleaning team rather than an unevidenced report from the public but time will tell.

Even so that doesn't mean she did it, or even if she did that they have evidence to prove she did it. I guess we'll find out in a month.

Whoever runs Gwent Police's Twitter account either lives under a rock or has gone on leave having previously set up a series of tweets to be released automatically. There's a Q and A session with the police this lunchtime. You can guess how this is going down on Twitter.

Please don't assume either my sex, gender or pronouns thank you.

Well why don't you tell us then so there is no longer any assumption?

Please don't assume either my sex, gender or pronouns thank you.

No.

There needs to be a public enquiry into police misogyny and overreach. It's gone too far. It's absolutely insane that this kind of feminist activism (which so clearly is not hateful at all) should be treated in this biased, punitive, abusive way.

@DialSquare

Please don't assume either my sex, gender or pronouns thank you.

Well why don't you tell us then so there is no longer any assumption?

Because it's none of your business. They/them will suffice thank you, I'm sure that's what most people would use for a gender critical poster who hadn't declared their sex.

Away from the somewhat heated environment of Twitter, it appears other things are going on.

My DH is a retired detective, but he still has contacts (he used to attend seminars and conferences worldwide before Covid-19). He understands that The Home Office and Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary and Fire & Rescue Services (HMICFRS) have been considering placing Gwent Police under 'special measures'. Not because of this scandal, but because of poor performance. Greater Manchester Police were placed under 'special measures' which saw its Chief Constable Ian Hopkins resigning.

There's absolutely no indication that this scandal is part of that discussion, but he suspects it is already being flagged to The Home Secretary. If the local PCC, Jeff Cuthbert gets involved, he reckons that will be the trigger for the Chief Constable and the Senior Management team being suspended, and more trusted officers from other forces being moved-in to take temporary command. From what I can see, morale in Gwent Police is taking a nosedive and its officers are now being routinely ridiculed by its local public. That in itself would be good reason for an intervention.

How rather dictatorial.

Well I for one will keep on assuming then and what will suffice for you is irrelevant. My speech is none of your business.

If someone is playing games then the person addressing them will default to assumptions/sex based pronouns.

Otherwise it can be just mind games. You can’t expect people to mentally take bit of everyone’s pronouns - especially when new ones keep popping up and these can be changes at the drop of a hat.

That's very interesting secular.

@NitroNine

Oh no, tellme, it’s MUCH worse than that - just THINK of all the poor men who won’t notice the stickers at all. They won’t be prepared to defend themselves from [the work of] The Dread Activist Stickerwoman! What if they unexpectedly see a bright colour out of the corner of their eye?!

And if they do see them, who knows what might happen? They might walk into a lamppost trying to read a sticker. It’s well known that ‘A Few Good Men’ “can’t handle the truth!” - & of course that women are responsible for what men do, so probably we should all be ashamed.

Definitely. I really think we need to remember that within all this, the real victims are men

@DialSquare

Well I for one will keep on assuming then and what will suffice for you is irrelevant. My speech is none of your business.

In which case you will understand if I report your posts, I belive that deliberately misgendering people is against mumsnet guidelines.

Anyway I've made my point and don't want to derail things, back to stickers.

@secular111

Away from the somewhat heated environment of Twitter, it appears other things are going on.

My DH is a retired detective, but he still has contacts (he used to attend seminars and conferences worldwide before Covid-19). He understands that The Home Office and Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary and Fire & Rescue Services (HMICFRS) have been considering placing Gwent Police under 'special measures'. Not because of this scandal, but because of poor performance. Greater Manchester Police were placed under 'special measures' which saw its Chief Constable Ian Hopkins resigning.

There's absolutely no indication that this scandal is part of that discussion, but he suspects it is already being flagged to The Home Secretary. If the local PCC, Jeff Cuthbert gets involved, he reckons that will be the trigger for the Chief Constable and the Senior Management team being suspended, and more trusted officers from other forces being moved-in to take temporary command. From what I can see, morale in Gwent Police is taking a nosedive and its officers are now being routinely ridiculed by its local public. That in itself would be good reason for an intervention.

This is very interesting.

You can do what you like barley. I haven't misgendered you anywhere as I don't know your gender so good luck with that. I use your name when I'm talking about you or to you.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

That's very interesting secular.

Yes it is.

The statement they put out was awful.

Why mention glass being put under posters in the same breath as arresting a disabled woman for fly posting, if you weren't trying to connect the two.

And if you were trying to connect the two, fucking connect them then.

The bbc article is shockingly biased. Just went to link it here but I've lost the bloody thing. 🙄 Two secs...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-60130082

We owe him so much. A real hero.

Male, masculine*, he/him

• the entitlement, arrogance, and patronising tone

thanks, secular. That is interesting.

I'm sorry to get caught up on the physics of it all, but how would you place broken glass at the edges of anything being stuck up? There would be obvious lumps in the poster/sticker and perhaps most importantly...

then the poster wouldn't stick.

"officers are now being routinely ridiculed by its local public"

Living in Gwent, I can't say I've noticed a decline in respect of the police in the many years I've been here: It was always pretty much rock bottom.

secular Your report is interesting and disturbing in equal measure.

Taken in conjunction with the revelations about councils who are losing control of their Children's Services, I grieve for the profound cultural problems we have in major agencies in the UK. Especially as these are agencies that have such a profound impact on people's life opportunities.