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Jennifer Swayne arrested for stickering.

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Thelnebriati · 24/01/2022 00:45

Jennifer Swayne has been arrested on charges of vandalism, ‘hate crimes’ and public order offences. Police searched her house and removed several sheets of stickers.

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Jennifer Swayne arrested for stickering.
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barleybadminton · 25/01/2022 18:01

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

I think it's disgusting that the police behave like this. It happens to everyone unfortunately. I know people who've been kicked out of police stations in the middle of the night with no money and miles from home. I had one friend who was arrested for activism who had to walk ten miles across london is freezing conditions in a paper suit at four in the morning because the police had seized his clothes as evidence.

There you are, nearly posting like a human being. Pity about the way you're engaging in the Race to the Bottom, but baby steps.

I'd like to have a word about the over-use of 'middle-class', tbh. I come from very humble origins - a notorious shithole of a council tower block, in fact, and I can tick off various boxes for being marginalised.

So bearing that in mind, since when did middle-class women become immune from domestic violence? A hell of a lot of "middle-class" women have been murdered during the lockdowns.

Women are oppressed as a class. Including ones richer than me.

I've said from the start I disagreed with the police's behaviour. What I object to is the claim she has been treated unnecessarily harshly because she's a gender critical woman. She hasn't, she's been treated the exact same way as everyone else would be in similar circumstances. It is a deeply offensive claim given the way the police treat young black men, homeless people and many other marginalised groups when they arrest them. At least she got out alive.
Datun · 25/01/2022 18:08

At least she got out alive.

She posted a fucking sticker.

Such dingbattery is difficult to believe!

😂😂😂

Bosky · 25/01/2022 18:11

BarleyBadminton - she's been treated the exact same way as everyone else would be in similar circumstances.

Really? What about the people who have been posting stickers threatening women?

genderisharmful.substack.com/p/cardiff-has-a-problem

dolorsit · 25/01/2022 18:12

@Datun

At least she got out alive.

She posted a fucking sticker.

Such dingbattery is difficult to believe!

😂😂😂

I see we have already moved onto it wasn't that bad.
Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/01/2022 18:12

It's quite something to behold Datun Grin

SamphiretheStickerist · 25/01/2022 18:12

What I object to is the claim she has been treated unnecessarily harshly because she's a gender critical woman. She hasn't, she's been treated the exact same way as everyone else would be in similar circumstances. It is a deeply offensive claim given the way the police treat young black men, homeless people and many other marginalised groups when they arrest them. At least she got out alive.

Utter twaddle. Utterly offensive. And absolutely batshit.

We can ALL see you for EXACTLY what you are Barely

An Eexcuserciser par excellence would be over stating it, almost!

barleybadminton · 25/01/2022 18:16

@Datun

At least she got out alive.

She posted a fucking sticker.

Such dingbattery is difficult to believe!

😂😂😂

Ian Tomlinson was just on his way home from work,. Kebe Jobe had a small amount of cannabis. Harry Stanley was carrying a chair leg. Joy Gardner hadn't even committed a crime when she was restrained with handcuffs and leather straps and gagged with a 13-foot length of adhesive tape wrapped around her head.
barleybadminton · 25/01/2022 18:17

[quote Bosky]BarleyBadminton - she's been treated the exact same way as everyone else would be in similar circumstances.

Really? What about the people who have been posting stickers threatening women?

genderisharmful.substack.com/p/cardiff-has-a-problem[/quote]
If they did it in full view of police officers they would also be arrested. If the police don't know who did it they can't arrest anyone.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 25/01/2022 18:17

Oh look, there you are again, engaging in Race to the Bottom. I do not think anyone should be thinking "at least I got out alive" after being arrested for putting stickers on street furniture.

She has been accused of a hate crime. Stickers with "3+ WOMEN KILLED BY MEN EACH WEEK. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE KILLS" have been confiscated from her home as part of a "hate crimes" investigation. I don't think most of the TRA stickers I see offline qualify as hate, never mind that one!

That is women's rights and you are sneering at her for being allegedly middle-class. I don't give a sweet wrapper whether she is or not, and nor should you.

SamphiretheStickerist · 25/01/2022 18:22

Oh sod off Barely She is an almost 70 year* old woman in a motorised chair, with a fucking cast on her arm.

Your attempts to downplay this are pathetic - and offensive to the people you list, and their families. Just stop.

*Apologies if I misremembered that bit

barleybadminton · 25/01/2022 18:23

Oh look, there you are again, engaging in Race to the Bottom. I do not think anyone should be thinking "at least I got out alive" after being arrested for putting stickers on street furniture.

Neither do I. I think the police in this country are a disgrace. But the simple fact is a lot of people are treated a lot worse than she was and it is offensive to attempt to claim she has been disproportionately poorly treated just because she is a gender critical woman.

RepentMotherfucker · 25/01/2022 18:25

Ian Tomlinson was just on his way home from work,. Kebe Jobe had a small amount of cannabis. Harry Stanley was carrying a chair leg. Joy Gardner hadn't even committed a crime when she was restrained with handcuffs and leather straps and gagged with a 13-foot length of adhesive tape wrapped around her head.

So because these bad things happened we shouldn't care about this similarly bad thing happening? Confused

Datun · 25/01/2022 18:27

Oh look, there you are again, engaging in Race to the Bottom.

It's a tired, predictable, men's rights activist tactic.

Whatevah has happened to yewww wimmin, I will find something worse.

Barley knows they're not making a point. They know they're not convincing anyone.

They just like it.

Same old same old.

SamphiretheStickerist · 25/01/2022 18:28

@BarelySentient

barleybadminton · 25/01/2022 18:30

@RepentMotherfucker

Ian Tomlinson was just on his way home from work,. Kebe Jobe had a small amount of cannabis. Harry Stanley was carrying a chair leg. Joy Gardner hadn't even committed a crime when she was restrained with handcuffs and leather straps and gagged with a 13-foot length of adhesive tape wrapped around her head.

So because these bad things happened we shouldn't care about this similarly bad thing happening? Confused

No, we should care about them all, but also recognise that the police are a racist and corrupt organisation and well spoken white former teachers are far from the most marginalised group when it comes to police brutality. The way she was treated was nothing compared to the routine harassment and violence the police mete out to young black men. That doesn't make it okay, but it does mean claiming that white gender critical women are the group that faces specifically poor treatment by the police is offensive and plain wrong.
PurgatoryOfPotholes · 25/01/2022 18:33

Ian Tomlinson - struck on the head by an officer in 2009, causing his death
Kebba Jobe - 2004
Harry Stanley - Shot by police in 1999
Joy Gardner - killed through restraint 1993

It is 2022. AIBU to expect the police to improve in the time since these wrongful deaths? There are regular posters on this board who wouldn't have been born when Joy and Harry died.

SamphiretheStickerist · 25/01/2022 18:35

That doesn't make it okay, but it does mean claiming that white gender critical women are the group that faces specifically poor treatment by the police is offensive and plain wrong.

Except, well, erm, nope! Can't be arsed. Cos logic doesn't help when you are dealing with the wilfully obtuse

RepentMotherfucker · 25/01/2022 18:35

Neither do I. I think the police in this country are a disgrace. But the simple fact is a lot of people are treated a lot worse than she was and it is offensive to attempt to claim she has been disproportionately poorly treated just because she is a gender critical woman.

Only really if you had a little monocle out trying to find something offensive.

I suppose you might want to ask yourself, if you are - as you appear to view yourself from your posts on this thread - a person who cares about police overreach and brutality why, on this occasion, you are keen to excuse it.

That might, in turn, lead to the realisation that you have dehumanised and othered GC women and that you accept them being treated in a way that would apall you if it were another group.

That might make you wonder why you had done this and what had lead you to viewing some people as being worth less than others.

You might then examine the ideology that had caused this to happen and come to some conclusions about whether it was a force for good or evil, both in your own life and in society in general.

I get that you won't. It's more outlining the process for any dissenters from the gender cult that have popped in for a look around.

OldCrone · 25/01/2022 18:37

The way she was treated was nothing compared to the routine harassment and violence the police mete out to young black men. That doesn't make it okay, but it does mean claiming that white gender critical women are the group that faces specifically poor treatment by the police is offensive and plain wrong.

But nobody has said that. We are discussing a specific incident involving a particular woman.

If you want to discuss police brutality towards young black men, start another thread.

Goatsaregreat · 25/01/2022 18:37

In other words you right wing white middle class pearl clutching women, shut up while men remove your rights and speak over you.
Same old patriarchy seen here.

DialSquare · 25/01/2022 18:39

What is the point of you barley? What sort of person comes on to a thread about the atrocious treatment of one particular person to point out that it's not as bad as the treatment of others?

Datun · 25/01/2022 18:40

@RepentMotherfucker

Neither do I. I think the police in this country are a disgrace. But the simple fact is a lot of people are treated a lot worse than she was and it is offensive to attempt to claim she has been disproportionately poorly treated just because she is a gender critical woman.

Only really if you had a little monocle out trying to find something offensive.

I suppose you might want to ask yourself, if you are - as you appear to view yourself from your posts on this thread - a person who cares about police overreach and brutality why, on this occasion, you are keen to excuse it.

That might, in turn, lead to the realisation that you have dehumanised and othered GC women and that you accept them being treated in a way that would apall you if it were another group.

That might make you wonder why you had done this and what had lead you to viewing some people as being worth less than others.

You might then examine the ideology that had caused this to happen and come to some conclusions about whether it was a force for good or evil, both in your own life and in society in general.

I get that you won't. It's more outlining the process for any dissenters from the gender cult that have popped in for a look around.

Yep, you've nailed Barley there.

I seem to remember another poster who was never so fucking interested about random men being treated badly, abused and oppressed in prison, until we were talking about women having to put up with men alongside them in prison.

It's a tactic. It's transparent.

DialSquare · 25/01/2022 18:40

Also, what is your tucking obsession with the middle class? What are your working class credentials?

RepentMotherfucker · 25/01/2022 18:40

@DialSquare

What is the point of you barley? What sort of person comes on to a thread about the atrocious treatment of one particular person to point out that it's not as bad as the treatment of others?
On FWR, taking about a woman, saying 'what about these men?' Shock
DialSquare · 25/01/2022 18:41

Tucking = fucking. Bit of a Freudian slip there!

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