Jennifer Swayne arrested for stickering.

[Thelnebriati]

Jennifer Swayne has been arrested on charges of vandalism, ‘hate crimes’ and public order offences. Police searched her house and removed several sheets of stickers.

twitter.com/WeAreFairCop/status/1485304357293891588

@OldCrone

The 'hate' element will come into play in sentencing

The hate crime categories are race, religion, disability, sexual orientation and 'transgender identity' (no idea where the last one comes from, because it's not one of the protected characteristics in the EA2010).

Her stickers are about male violence against women and men in women's prisons. How could any of them fall into those hate crime categories?

From the interview she gave the domestic violence stickers were found at her home but they aren't what she's accused of putting up. We don't know for sure what the stickers and posters she has been accused of putting up were, but the gender critical tactic of faux naivity if they were clearly intended to reference trans women is unlikely to impress the courts.

I know, a middle class white woman being treated exactly the same way any else would be in similar circumstances, it's appalling.

Well that's the opposite of what's happening, obviously.

Women are routinely being threatened with disgusting photos, memes, etc, all of which are completely ignored by the police.

but the gender critical tactic of faux naivity if they were clearly intended to reference trans women is unlikely to impress the courts.

Again, you're not getting it. Talking about transwomen in women's prisons etc, is neither faux, nor naive. It's completely legal. And it's not hate.

Barley, you are very keen on throwing the word middle-class around as a pejorative. Not so keen on mentioning that she is a disabled woman who uses a mobility scooter, and who was left to make her own way home after 3am, though.

Mobility scooters can both run out of power unexpectedly, and also aren't really that fast. She would have been easy pickings for any predator. Any feelings about that, Barley?

I know, a middle class white woman

A woman with physical disabilities and mental health conditions is hardly top of the privilege tree, is she. Come on.

X post with Potholes

I see the woman scolder has woken up

@OldCrone

(the police routinely seize all kinds of crap in their investigations, she's lucky if she's still got her computer)

For flyposting? Isn't that normally dealt with via a fixed penalty notice from the council?

It usually would be, it depends on the scale of it. Also it sounds like she was caught in the act by the police so in that instance it would be down to them to deal with it.

but the gender critical tactic of faux naivity if they were clearly intended to reference trans women is unlikely to impress the courts.

That's not 'faux naivety chum. That's fucking rage^

Men are not women. Human beings cannot change sex.

Women's rights are not for men to despoil.

Trans rights are trans rights, human rights. They do not supersede women's rights.

The police are being led by the nose by some cynical fuckers. And anyone who chooses not to be blinded by ideology can see this. NOTHING about the arrest of this woman was appropriate to the offence she committed.

@OldCrone

(the police routinely seize all kinds of crap in their investigations, she's lucky if she's still got her computer)

For flyposting? Isn't that normally dealt with via a fixed penalty notice from the council?

Well quite.

Barley is simultaneously arguing that women's rights activists should be treated like anyone else sticking stuff on lamp-posts, and that we're expecting special treatment on this woman.

It's like watching someone put their leg behind their own head.

It usually would be, it depends on the scale of it. Also it sounds like she was caught in the act by the police so in that instance it would be down to them to deal with it.

Gosh, I wonder how many other fly posters have had their books confiscated?

Believing in the reality of biology and defending the rights of women really is not fucking terrorism

The fact that police and some activists seem to be deluded to the point of believing it is, tells you everything you need to know about the danger that women's rights are in!

You cannot say this agenda is no threat to women when women are being treated like this! Here is the threat! How much more threat do you need to see?

Either you're fine with male supremacism and the necessary suppression, silencing and subordination of women that this involves, which means you have a binary sex based belief that places inferiority on females no matter how much you kid yourself that you don't think is a thing, or you're not.

Male supremacism and subordination of females as the inferior race is really not the side of light, sunshine, rainbows, goodness, kindness, inclusion or equality. It cannot be.

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

Barley, you are very keen on throwing the word middle-class around as a pejorative. Not so keen on mentioning that she is a disabled woman who uses a mobility scooter, and who was left to make her own way home after 3am, though.

Mobility scooters can both run out of power unexpectedly, and also aren't really that fast. She would have been easy pickings for any predator. Any feelings about that, Barley?

I think it's disgusting that the police behave like this. It happens to everyone unfortunately. I know people who've been kicked out of police stations in the middle of the night with no money and miles from home. I had one friend who was arrested for activism who had to walk ten miles across london is freezing conditions in a paper suit at four in the morning because the police had seized his clothes as evidence.

It's like watching someone put their leg behind their own head.

To me it always feels like trying to pat their head, whilst rubbing their stomach.

It's the left-hand desperately trying to outdo the right hand whilst the brain is ignoring both.

Well considering the Trans Action for Health manifesto calls for the end of policing and I have seen the video footage of campaigning about this, when the police have successfully lost their trust, and then the trust of anyone unlucky enough to be born female, I wonder quite where they think their public trust is going to come from.

Which makes me think they're foolishly playing into a political agenda that may well intend for this to happen anyway.

I hope you don't mind me truncating your paragraph Artichokeleaves. But you nailed it.

you're fine with male supremacism and the necessary suppression, silencing and subordination of women that this involves, which means you have a binary sex based belief that places inferiority on females no matter how much you kid yourself that you don't think is a thing

@Artichokeleaves

Believing in the reality of biology and defending the rights of women really is not fucking terrorism

The fact that police and some activists seem to be deluded to the point of believing it is, tells you everything you need to know about the danger that women's rights are in!

You cannot say this agenda is no threat to women when women are being treated like this! Here is the threat! How much more threat do you need to see?

Either you're fine with male supremacism and the necessary suppression, silencing and subordination of women that this involves, which means you have a binary sex based belief that places inferiority on females no matter how much you kid yourself that you don't think is a thing, or you're not.

Male supremacism and subordination of females as the inferior race is really not the side of light, sunshine, rainbows, goodness, kindness, inclusion or equality. It cannot be.

Cracking post Artichokeleaves I'm still at seeing such open male supremacism argued for on a feminist board. I know I should be used to it by now but........

How can the even get to interview anyone at 1:30am?

Quite, it's stickering not murder. They really are absolute wankers aren't they.

Who knew that women with multiple disabilities were so disgustingly privileged?

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Who knew that women with multiple disabilities were so disgustingly privileged?

Ahh. It doesn't matter how underprivileged Jenny is, she's a woman with an unauthorised opinion. And that's enough.

Quick, steal her books to make sure she's not thinking non-patriarchal stuff.

Honestly, I can't get over it.

It's absolutely mind blowing. Confiscating her fucking books!!!

Ahh. It doesn't matter how underprivileged Jenny is, she's a woman with an unauthorised opinion. And that's enough.

Yep.

I think it's disgusting that the police behave like this. It happens to everyone unfortunately. I know people who've been kicked out of police stations in the middle of the night with no money and miles from home. I had one friend who was arrested for activism who had to walk ten miles across london is freezing conditions in a paper suit at four in the morning because the police had seized his clothes as evidence.

There you are, nearly posting like a human being. Pity about the way you're engaging in the Race to the Bottom, but baby steps.

I'd like to have a word about the over-use of 'middle-class', tbh. I come from very humble origins - a notorious shithole of a council tower block, in fact, and I can tick off various boxes for being marginalised.

So bearing that in mind, since when did middle-class women become immune from domestic violence? A hell of a lot of "middle-class" women have been murdered during the lockdowns.

Women are oppressed as a class. Including ones richer than me.

@Datun

Not likely, she seems to have admitted the offence (the criminal damage part) not just in her police interview but also all over social media, it's going to be pretty hard to switch that to a not guilty plea if it comes to court. The 'hate' element will come into play in sentencing, and she will be able to argue against any aggravated sentence at that point.

You still don't get it do you. Of course she admitted posting the posters. That's the whole bloody point. Christ this is like wading through custard.

She's an activist Barley.

Supporting women.

What it's NOT is hate.

What it's NOT is a proportionate police reaction.

This woman is going to have the support of women everywhere to highlight the disgusting treatment women are suffering at the hands of the police.

For standing up for their rights.

This. The point.