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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Why am I not surprised?

414 replies

FatFucker · 09/01/2022 00:09

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10382291/Did-Hertfordshire-Police-force-break-uniform-code-transgender-trailblazer.html

One rule for women and another for transgender women.

Having long green nails and heavy makeup, breaches Hertfordshire Police Forces uniform policy, unless of course you're trans! Then you can do what you like to "feel like a woman".

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ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 09/01/2022 17:26

To be fair, I doubt there's anything in the guidelines about make up being applied well. Maybe that's the problem, didn't look.in a mirror when slapping it on. Rooky mistake.

NoNotMeNoSiree · 09/01/2022 17:28

I'm not the one making it about race.
I was talking about make up

Helleofabore · 09/01/2022 17:28

That's funny, as I literally never wear it and as I said I couldn't care less if others wear it or not.
It seems people on here do though.

Who the fuck cares who wears make up and who does not. You are the only one making judgement calls on who wears make up with your endless telling us you don’t.

It is irrelevant. What is relevant is the equal application of a dress code.

Something you cannot even acknowledge is happening. Yet seek to make a judgement about someone’s skin tone.

Helleofabore · 09/01/2022 17:32

@NoNotMeNoSiree

Oh come on, you can tell what's make up and what's natural skin tone! God this conversation is fucking horrible, it's policing women's looks and its sick.
You are the one making the judgement that it is make up.

Just as jane Fae sought to shame a young woman also for their skin tone.

Look at who YOU are aligning with, isn’t that something you have told us before?

Fae. A known extreme porn campaigner, including lowering the age for porn actors, and blames women for their eggshell skulls being the reason for domestic violence resulting in murder.

NoNotMeNoSiree · 09/01/2022 17:33

Who the fuck cares who wears make up and who does not
Exactly!
So why do people care so much when a trans woman does but from those linked tweets where other women are wearing makeup nobody cares there?

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 09/01/2022 17:33

@NoNotMeNoSiree

I'm not the one making it about race. I was talking about make up
yes, you were making a judgement call on the colour of a woman's skin

let's get back on topic

do you consider green or red to be 'neutral' nail varnish colours?

TInkyWlnky · 09/01/2022 17:33

@NoNotMeNoSiree

I'm not the one making it about race. I was talking about make up
Post the link then.
BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 09/01/2022 17:34

@NoNotMeNoSiree

Who the fuck cares who wears make up and who does not Exactly! So why do people care so much when a trans woman does but from those linked tweets where other women are wearing makeup nobody cares there?
ah, we should all not care about the rules being applied differently to women and transwomen?

they are VERY different I suppose, aren't they?

Helleofabore · 09/01/2022 17:36

@NoNotMeNoSiree

Who the fuck cares who wears make up and who does not Exactly! So why do people care so much when a trans woman does but from those linked tweets where other women are wearing makeup nobody cares there?
And around we go.

I can do this all afternoon.

It is the application of the dress code policy that is in question. Your seeming inability to acknowledge there is an issue is quite apparent.

It is YOU and other posters who are making this into a ‘male wearing make up being the issue’ issue. We have all stated that the policy seems to be unequally applied and it is unfair.

NoNotMeNoSiree · 09/01/2022 17:38

The tweets posted others are" wearing make up though.

Helleofabore · 09/01/2022 17:40

Neutral colour sirree. According to policy.

I don’t think one person has denied there are women wearing neutral make up.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 09/01/2022 17:41

@NoNotMeNoSiree

The tweets posted others are" wearing make up though.
yes indeed

discrete make up, in line with the policy

I'll ask again @NoNotMeNoSiree

do you think green or red are neutral nail colours?

Helleofabore · 09/01/2022 17:45

This is what happens when posters hold such a prejudiced view of the regular poster’s on this board.

They simply cannot acknowledge when an OP has a point.

They simply must argue around and around that posters are hateful, because that may be the prejudice the poster’s have. And then use racist statements and bizarre takes to attempt to discredit posters.

GCITC · 09/01/2022 17:45

@NoNotMeNoSiree

The tweets posted others are" wearing make up though.
One I can tell is wearing mascara, the other I see no make up. A vast difference from the other person who looks to have foundation, liner, mascara, eyeshadow, brows and lipstick on.

But you know that.

ArabellaScott · 09/01/2022 18:26

@NoNotMeNoSiree

The tweets posted others are" wearing make up though.
which ones? please link, I can't see anyone with make up on
ArabellaScott · 09/01/2022 18:27

to post a link, Quaggars, you just need to highlight the address of the tweet in the search bar, do ctrl+c to copy, (or I think command+c on a mac), and then ctrl+v on your post here in Mumsnet. I can try and find a walk-through video if that would be helpful.

Helleofabore · 09/01/2022 18:31

To be fair, blueberry also declared there were many other examples.

Although, they then indulged in negative generalisations about the posters on this board which meant their post was deleted. This was not a surprise either.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 09/01/2022 18:37

@NoNotMeNoSiree

Oh come on, you can tell what's make up and what's natural skin tone! God this conversation is fucking horrible, it's policing women's looks and its sick.
Yes. We can.

You can't. And as usual, you don't read what people type, and just go off half-cocked, high on your own righteousness.

This is what you said.

Well just a quick look at Hert police twitter account you don't have to scroll far at all see pics of other women officers being shown.
The first one I saw was someone looking like they're heavily tanned and like the fake tan bottle a lot or foundation.

The very top post, the first one you might see is a photo of a police officer discussing the racism she's encountered as a "mixed heritage" officer.

I looked at that and saw a woman. As has been made very apparent to me over the past year, the trans activist movement is predominately white, very well-off, and they rarely tend to mix socially with people not from that background. This is often apparent, but the occasions when white trans activists see mixed race women and assume it is "fake tan" are particularly glaring. It shows they don't even know what mixed-race people look like, never mind associate with them.

Stop denying the raving obvious and resolve from now on to actually read what people say. It's January after all, month of the New Year's Resolution

NoNotMeNoSiree · 09/01/2022 18:41

The very top post, the first one you might see is a photo of a police officer discussing the racism she's encountered as a "mixed heritage" officer.

Again, that absolutely was NOT the tweet and I would never do that.
NOT in capitals as it seems you need it saying louder.

VestofAbsurdity · 09/01/2022 18:43

Why won't you post a link to the picture you deem as a woman wearing heavy make-up or fake tan, NoNotMeNoSiree? Or at the very least tell us which picture on the official Herts Police Twitter feed you are critiquing? What are you afraid of? You are arguing that the woman police officer you saw on the Twitter feed was wearing heavy make up or fake tan, it's up to you to show evidence of that.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 09/01/2022 18:44

@NoNotMeNoSiree

The very top post, the first one you might see is a photo of a police officer discussing the racism she's encountered as a "mixed heritage" officer.

Again, that absolutely was NOT the tweet and I would never do that.
NOT in capitals as it seems you need it saying louder.

Let's have a link then. Cos I have a twitter account and I have checked. It's the top post, posted today.

Put the bloody shovel down, and go and reflect on your behaviour.

P.S. if you bothered to read people's posts, you'd have remembered the Jane Fae incident where she mocked a mixed-race woman for using too much fake tan, and learnt from it. And yes, you were on the thread where we discussed that. I have a memory, even if you haven't.

VestofAbsurdity · 09/01/2022 18:45

@NoNotMeNoSiree

The very top post, the first one you might see is a photo of a police officer discussing the racism she's encountered as a "mixed heritage" officer.

Again, that absolutely was NOT the tweet and I would never do that.
NOT in capitals as it seems you need it saying louder.

Frankly, I don't believe you. You have fucked up and are back pedalling as fast as you can hence being unable or unwilling to clarify which picture you were talking about.
lovelyweathertoday · 09/01/2022 18:46

@NoNotMeNoSiree

I'm not the one making it about race. I was talking about make up

I must have missed the post where you linked to the easily found photo of a woman wearing excessive makeup. I couldn't see anything excessive.

Surely giving us the example makes more sense than argue over an imaginary photo.

NoNotMeNoSiree · 09/01/2022 18:47

And yes, you were on the thread where we discussed that. I have a memory, even if you haven't.
Ok, I think you've definitely got me mixed up with someone else now as I know I wasnt on a thread about that.

Sophoclesthefox · 09/01/2022 18:49

This is desperate stuff, even by your standards nosir.

Hypocritical, too, when the purpose of you wading in was (by your own lights) to tell posters off about being judgemental about a womans make up, then at best your post about the other special constables did exactly that…and arguably was much worse, if it was indeed as racist as it seemed.

Give it a rest.