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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Why am I not surprised?

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FatFucker · 09/01/2022 00:09

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10382291/Did-Hertfordshire-Police-force-break-uniform-code-transgender-trailblazer.html

One rule for women and another for transgender women.

Having long green nails and heavy makeup, breaches Hertfordshire Police Forces uniform policy, unless of course you're trans! Then you can do what you like to "feel like a woman".

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NoNotMeNoSiree · 09/01/2022 20:42

You said you didn't need to scroll far at all to see pics of other women being shown
Which you don't.

So the first one [you] saw was?
What?!
No.
I never said it was the first one!
Blimey.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 09/01/2022 20:43

@NoNotMeNoSiree

I'm all ears Grin No, you're not. You make that perfectly clear when you manage to try and make the thread about male rapists and prisons when it's about a trans woman and make up.
Why did you copy and paste part of Bernard's post without answering the direct question?

How can you miss a question to you within a post? Do you only read alternate sentences?

Bernard asked: do you think red or green are neutral nail colours?

Why am I not surprised?
PurgatoryOfPotholes · 09/01/2022 20:44

@NoNotMeNoSiree

You said you didn't need to scroll far at all to see pics of other women being shown Which you don't.

So the first one [you] saw was?
What?!
No.
I never said it was the first one!
Blimey.

So the "first one [you] saw" was?
NoNotMeNoSiree · 09/01/2022 20:45

Anyways.
This is ridiculous.
I've said why I'm not linking, and people are free to look themselves at Twitter, it's hardly some secret corner of the Internet.
People say I'm ignoring questions but funny how no one's pulling up on the male rapists in prisons bit by another poster.
On a completely unrelated thread about trans women police officers wearing make up.

Helleofabore · 09/01/2022 20:46

Bernard asked: do you think red or green are neutral nail colours?

This IS an easy question too to answer.

Are these colours neutral in your opinion?

youvegottenminuteslynn · 09/01/2022 20:47

@NoNotMeNoSiree

Come on now.

The only reason not to simply clear up which Twitter post you were referencing is if you know you've misjudged and said the fake tan comment about someone you now realise is not white.

If you just said 'oh shit, I made a bad call there I shouldn't have said that' it would have been refreshing but instead you've doubled down and refused to simply say which one you meant.

So why not just take a deep breath and either admit a fuck up or share the post you actually were referencing?

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 09/01/2022 20:50

@NoNotMeNoSiree

Anyways. This is ridiculous. I've said why I'm not linking, and people are free to look themselves at Twitter, it's hardly some secret corner of the Internet. People say I'm ignoring questions but funny how no one's pulling up on the male rapists in prisons bit by another poster. On a completely unrelated thread about trans women police officers wearing make up.
Yes. We have looked. That is, in fact, your problem.

We have seen that the first post anyone sees of a female officer on the Herts forve twitter is the post today of a "mixed heritage female officer".

It meets the criteria you described (first post showing a female officer, not having to scroll far). We do not need advanced probability to make this calculation.

NoNotMeNoSiree · 09/01/2022 20:51

Why did you copy and paste part of Bernard's post without answering the direct question?
I already said.
Because they're not all ears at all, when they can take a thread about a trans police officer 's make up and try to turn it into rapists in prisons.
Why would they do that?

NoNotMeNoSiree · 09/01/2022 20:53

That was why I didn't answer the question the first time it was asked for clarity and it doesn't matter who says it or how many times, as its clear the all ears wasn't genuine.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 09/01/2022 20:53

@NoNotMeNoSiree

Why did you copy and paste part of Bernard's post without answering the direct question? I already said. Because they're not all ears at all, when they can take a thread about a trans police officer 's make up and try to turn it into rapists in prisons. Why would they do that?
Goodness me. On a thread where you are dodging very simple questions, why would anyone be reminded of other times you've exhibited the same behaviour. It's a mystery.

do you think red or green are neutral nail colours?

NoNotMeNoSiree · 09/01/2022 20:56

The only reason not to simply clear up which Twitter post you were referencing is if you know you've misjudged
No, the reasons posted upthread.
As I said it was NOT about that tweet.

Keeping2ChevronsApart · 09/01/2022 21:01

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youvegottenminuteslynn · 09/01/2022 21:02

@NoNotMeNoSiree

The only reason not to simply clear up which Twitter post you were referencing is if you know you've misjudged No, the reasons posted upthread. As I said it was NOT about that tweet.
So which one was it about?

You were sure enough it was relevant to mention it, so why not confirm which one?

You sound willing to judge people for making statements they fully believe in, sharing examples of why they have those beliefs. But you say what you believe, claim it's evidenced, refer to what you say is a specific example... then won't shared said example.

It makes you look very insincere.

ShrillSiren · 09/01/2022 21:05

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Sophoclesthefox · 09/01/2022 21:07

Why would they do that?

Nobody is buying what you’re selling anymore, no. You get that, right? Your bad faith engagement is just too obvious now.

Helleofabore · 09/01/2022 21:09

siree

do you think red or green are neutral nail colours?

Sorting this out might show how this could be a misunderstanding, instead of an unwise doubling down.

NoNotMeNoSiree · 09/01/2022 21:10

No, I'm not.
You can believe what you want which you're going to do anyway, but I was not referring to that tweet.
And I've already said why I'm not linking to tweets to invite people to pull on people's looks.
People not getting that isn't very surprising though when they're perfectly happy to comment on a trans women's looks.
The '' laydee'' comment just before this shows its not just a concern about make up policy on police officers, is it.

ArabellaScott · 09/01/2022 21:16

NoNot I do almost admire your persistence in the faux naive and disingenuous posts.

Few people are willing to continue digging themselves such a deep hole when it is abundantly clear to absolutely everyone reading that you're talking piffle.

Which tweet did you mean?

Helleofabore · 09/01/2022 21:17

Hilarious.

It is YOU who has commented on someone's looks. YOU.

People not getting that isn't very surprising though when they're perfectly happy to comment on a trans women's looks.

People have commented on the application of make up in the two or three photos that we have now seen. And in all of them, they are not following the Dress Code for the Hertfordshire Police.

But do crack on trying to twist this to being about us 'commenting on a transitioned male's looks'.

It is a very clear example of how false your argument has been consistently been throughout this thread, and how you resorted to an offensive statement as a 'gotcha'.

So, again, around we go.

This thread is about the unequal application of the dress code for the Hertfordshire Police. Any distractive technique you choose to deploy, will not actually show this unequal application in a positive light.

Helleofabore · 09/01/2022 21:20

This is ridiculous.
I've said why I'm not linking, and people are free to look themselves at Twitter, it's hardly some secret corner of the Internet.

Another classic move of ‘I am not going to admit I was really offensive. Instead I will continue to minimise it and make out everyone insisting on the proof I said was plentiful.

Fieldofgreycorn · 09/01/2022 21:20

or in connection with your religion/faith.

Many posters on this forum claim that trans is a religion.

I’d say Cherry is very in keeping with The Faith, no?

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 09/01/2022 21:24

Oh, I never believe what I want to believe. Thinking that one's own beliefs can shape material reality isn't for me. If I believed what I wanted, I wouldn't believe there was such a thing as subconscious misogyny, homophobia or racism!

Instead, I feel morally compelled to consider evidence, and concepts like Occam's Razor.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 09/01/2022 21:24

@NoNotMeNoSiree

No, I'm not. You can believe what you want which you're going to do anyway, but I was not referring to that tweet. And I've already said why I'm not linking to tweets to invite people to pull on people's looks. People not getting that isn't very surprising though when they're perfectly happy to comment on a trans women's looks. The '' laydee'' comment just before this shows its not just a concern about make up policy on police officers, is it.
And I've already said why I'm not linking to tweets to invite people to pull on people's looks.

So why on earth did you specifically mention a female officer you said look liked they'd used loads of fake tan?!

Helleofabore · 09/01/2022 21:24

@Fieldofgreycorn

or in connection with your religion/faith.

Many posters on this forum claim that trans is a religion.

I’d say Cherry is very in keeping with The Faith, no?

Excellent.

Let’s do that.

Let’s treat this like all other religions.

fieldofgreycorn said we should.

ChetChet · 09/01/2022 21:26

Your question dodging abilities, NoNotMe, are at an Olympic gold level! Incredible!