Apparently we are a bunch of "stay at home mothers"

[SerfNTerf]

So says this article anyway

"Acting as an accelerator, the Internet maternity forum Mumsnet has grown over the years to become a hub for British transphobia. Many stay-at-home mothers have become convinced there of the danger that “transgender ideology” poses to their children."

Funny, I could've sworn I went to work yesterday, must have dreamed it

This is what I was thinking of.

“Last week was my first ever visit to Mumsnet. Honestly, I thought it was going to be lots of stuff about prams, or family-related matters. A sort of online This Morning minus Phil and Holly. The reality is more like a Nuremberg Rally. It’s very scary.”

I'm a work from home mum, I don't recall my opinions on anything suddenly becoming magically more valid than before I started churning out skin care guides and power tool descriptions on my laptop. Unless it's about antioxidants or the differences between a spanner and a wrench.

@EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn

This is what I was thinking of.

“Last week was my first ever visit to Mumsnet. Honestly, I thought it was going to be lots of stuff about prams, or family-related matters. A sort of online This Morning minus Phil and Holly. The reality is more like a Nuremberg Rally. It’s very scary.”

Just idiotic (the quotation, not you, empress!)

You’d have to live in a very specific bubble not to understand how birth and motherhood politicise women. Perhaps a man, or very young, or just hopelessly consumed by misogyny for some individual reason.

Motherhood is the time when very many women having a blinding and sudden realisation of how the deck is still stacked. Maybe their career takes a hit. Maybe they get sub standard maternity care or crap maternity leave. Maybe it’s their husbands assumption that while she’s washing nappies, it won’t be too much trouble to do his pants, too. Maybe they just get their pram elbowed off the pavement one too many times and realise they’re invisible.

They realise, Hey, hang on a minute, biology is real. We can all prat about on the Internet and play pretend that womanhood is some unknowable inner essence, but the work of having babies, raising children and all the rest of the grubby reality of womens lives doesn’t just vanish in a puff of glitter and condescension.

Women being treated so terribly is probably why lots of young people want to identify/hormone treatment out of becoming one

A ... Nuremberg rally?

Do these people have the slightest understanding of history? Can you even imagine trying to get everyone to stand in a formation? They can't even align on minor parking issues, let alone politics.

Does the writer have the foggiest idea how daft and offensive that is as a comparison?

It is odd how many people who are apparently concerned about not 'being on the wrong side of history' are so woefully ignorant of the subject, isn't it?

Is it odd, or is it exactly as one might expect, Errol?

I wonder what effect the parlous state of history as taught in school is having on people's awareness of social movements, contexts, histories, the general direction of things? We learned far more in Modern Studies about the broader sweep of history than we ever did in History and I am still, now having to fill in - well, had to start from scratch to be honest.

Seems to apply to many subjects - an intense focus on one very limited area to the exclusion of a wider view, overview, wider context. It gives a very patchy and partial impression of the world, and little framework for creating a cohesive worldview.

Don't be mean, the snowflake generation has a whole 20 years more history to learn than us oldsters 😁

I suspect I might just be in the snowflake generation and there are younger members of my family who definitely would be.
All of them bar one know men can't be women and that sexism is based on biology. (and the bar one hasn't had kids yet so it may dawn on her yet) Yeah, we've had a few more avocados than other generations but other than that we're fairly normal.

Still working on my peer group though. Perhaps we have a genetic immunity to bs in my family.

My lot seem surprisingly sane - even the lot on the west coast of America and the Scottish contingent. Less surprisingly, the lot from the ME who think it’s hilarious (but there are a lot of doctors and engineers on that side).

Have only met 2 people spouting that line - one is just a bit of a wind up merchant /mr ‘I’m cool with the kids’, and the other a right-on Corbynite - until he wandered in when I was reading the newspaper and there was a piece about boys being permitted to join swimming and gymnastics with the girls on their teams (and changing rooms etc). His little girl had just taken up dance and gymnastics classes (I didn’t have to say a thing).

Yeah, we've had a few more avocados than other generations

Best line of the day.

You’d have to live in a very specific bubble not to understand how birth and motherhood politicise women
This is so true. It goes to the absolute heart of the power of lived experience.

Even if we were all SAHMs it still wouldn't mean we were ignorant. Most SAHMs I know have good educations and have worked before they became SAHMs.

Another thing .... whereas a lot of men who spend a lot of time at home just spend it playing some form or other of electronic games; most women I know who spend a lot of time at home read a lot of books and newspapers.

@KittenKong

Oh oh - have they been watching ‘The Real Housewives of XX’ and think it’s a documentary? I’ve only seen wee snips and it looks pretty hideous.

@KittenKong The New York one is actually funny and would recommend it if you want something in the background whilst you're doing something else. I tried the other ones and didn't take to them.