Apparently we are a bunch of "stay at home mothers"

[SerfNTerf]

So says this article anyway

"Acting as an accelerator, the Internet maternity forum Mumsnet has grown over the years to become a hub for British transphobia. Many stay-at-home mothers have become convinced there of the danger that “transgender ideology” poses to their children."

Funny, I could've sworn I went to work yesterday, must have dreamed it

@BunnyBerries

I just LOVE how that article writer thinks that "real life activists" have to "occupy public space" out in the cold, probably with their balaclavas on and big cardboard signs in order to gain any public support, or influence any public policy.

Not go to work behind the scenes with cups of doing fearless FOIs, digging for causes, emailing MPs and having quiet words with the school principal on new policies.

Keep thinking that mate. You'll never find us

This is true. This is the best way “activism” works—organised yet individual, articulate, based on facts. Critical arguments (in the best sense).

Not shouting (though protests can be noticed), not rambling, not mantras.

Stonewall made a good go of it, I have to admit, but I believe they preyed on political and social fear. They should never have added the T.

(As an aside, I do wonder whether employees of businesses/government bodies that are Stonewall champions feel any better in their place of work.. Which assumes they felt bad in the first place, which is wrong and unproven.)

Haha - my comment was a joke and it got deleted

@LuckyAmy1986

Nothing wrong with stay at home mothers if your circumstances demand it

and if it's nothing to do with circumstances demanding it, is it still ok?

That was poorly phrased. What i meant was most sahm do it for financial reasons or because it gives the best chance for children as it gives a 1:1 experience they don't get in childcare. It was more saying it's fine to go to work too if able or better to, IE. I'm not saying sahm is superior or inferior.

But in my case if was largely a financial decision.

@WorriedMumsDontSleep yeah sorry, I took it the wrong way! See what you meant now

My bad. Was a pretty crucial conjunction. (Llama face)

@KittenKong

Never go after Kiwi Farms do they?

No. Never mentioned. I r always assumed a) don’t know about it, b) appears to be mostly men, c) KiwiFarms falls into the right wing and is easily dismissed.

Is mother now a slur?
Presumably they have realised they are not going to win the right to the title mother, and from the moment that they realised that it has become an insult to, try and, use against (actual) women.

I've not RTFT but mums are not the only ones who know how harmful gender identity ideology is to children and young people. I know people who aren't parents - teachers, grandparents, academics, counsellors, social workers and more - who are campaigning against this ideology's infiltration and influence.

One of LGB Alliance 3 main priorities is to protect children who may grow up to be lesbian, gay or bisexual from thinking that body or personality is somehow in need of changing.

I think the fact that only one sex can be a mum has always grated with a certain kind of man.

@LuckyAmy1986

Nothing wrong with stay at home mothers if your circumstances demand it

and if it's nothing to do with circumstances demanding it, is it still ok?

Thank you for that reply/question.

My SAHM time was by choice. Not demands via circumstances.

And yes, I’ve checked my privilege.

Never go after Kiwi Farms do they?

That would be signposting people to where the receipts for the things we can't talk about here can be found.

Can I assume that as I'm not a SAHM my T**Ftastic veiws are more credible than those of your average domesticate birthing person?

@FOJN
Can I assume that as I'm not a SAHM my TFtastic veiws are more credible than those of your average domesticate birthing person?

I'm part time so no idea what level of credibility I have. However when I do work i earn more than twice my DHs hourly rate, which I'm sure would blow their tiny misogynistic minds!!

“WorriedMumsDontSleep

LuckyAmy1986
Nothing wrong with stay at home mothers if your circumstances demand it

and if it's nothing to do with circumstances demanding it, is it still ok?
That was poorly phrased. What i meant was most sahm do it for financial reasons or because it gives the best chance for children as it gives a 1:1 experience they don't get in childcare.
It was more saying it's fine to go to work too if able or better to, IE. I'm not saying sahm is superior or inferior.

But in my case if was largely a financial decision.“

I’ve now seen this ( only a few posts, difficult to keep up) but understand my reply was without full knowledge.

I’m not here to have a fight about WOHW women (sometimes also mothers) vs SAHW (sometimes also mothers), so thank you for clarification.

It’s one of the main points of feminism for me: choice.

It was badly phrased because it's a bit of a sore topic for me at the moment.

My child is nursery age, but has more complex needs than his peers, so our decision is very much based on finance and need- In the back of my mind I think a bit of nursery for baby/work for me would be good, but circumstances are more complicated. That's what I was trying badly to get across, that either choice is fine but the same choice not good for all circumstances.

@WorriedMumsDontSleep not going to speak for @ShagMeRiggins but I took it as you were saying it's only ok to be a SAHM if you need to, not want to, but I know you didn't mean that after clarifying! Sorry you are having a hard time with your little one.

I can definitely confirm that mum work is indeed work.

Something that constantly astonishes me is how trans rights activists misinterpret and underestimate gender critical feminists, and women who don't support transgender ideology. Sure, call us silly stay at home mummies who don't have a brain, and who just follow sheep-like whatever right wing religious organisations say...but it's not true. I'm sure it gives them great comfort to think that their opponents are really thick, but it doesn't seem like the best strategy in the long run. Surely a better thing to do would be to overestimate us! But many trans rights activists are so sexist, and so enamoured with the idea that women have silly lady thoughts, that they simply cannot comprehend that we are well read, educated, driven, and have our own opinions.

Mumsnet is a force, hiding in plain sight. It has radicalised me and made a far more empathetic women. It's cured my internalised misogyny and made me far more understanding of and interested in women's lives. it's made me far less tolerant of men that don't pull their weight. No wonder they sneer at it.

How have we got to the point that "stay at home mother" is considered an insult? Why are things that were traditionally part of a woman's life so little valued? Most of our foremothers were stay at home mothers. Maybe the way that "the patriarchy" lives on, is in what is valued in society.

@FOJN

Never go after Kiwi Farms do they?

That would be signposting people to where the receipts for the things we can't talk about here can be found.

Can I assume that as I'm not a SAHM my T**Ftastic veiws are more credible than those of your average domesticate birthing person?

I’m a SAHM and I’m not even a birthing person! My credentials must be rock bottom…in fact I’m pretty shit at the domestic stuff too. But I do grow apples and make shit tonnes of cider whilst slowly radicalising the other parents at school.

'Imperialism Is Responsible For Omicron''.

Actually I think that's a fair point. Vaccine hoarding by wealthy nations with an imperialist history is definitely a factor in the emergence of new variants.

Other than that, on the main point he's clearly a dick

Isn't it interesting how mummies is used to dismiss us, yet we are birthing people when we try to remind people of our rights?

@Floisme

I think the fact that only one sex can be a mum has always grated with a certain kind of man.

Quite.

Gosh, what are the daft nincompoops saying today?

@WorriedMumsDontSleep

I can definitely confirm that mum work is indeed work.

Amen, sister. And apologies for my misunderstanding. Wishing you well.