And just like that - females squeamish at male public masturbation

[MuchasSmoochas]

Has anyone watched the new Sex and the City show yet? I got really annoyed and switched off. Carrie is on a podcast, lots of chat about cis het. Whatevs.

But what really made me furious was when the male podcast guest said he couldn’t think of anywhere where he hadn’t masturbated in public. And Carrie said she hadn’t and they laughed at her like she was such a prude. I suppose it was trying to show how behind the times she is. I suppose she didn’t want to “kink shame” .

When did it become ok for men to masturbate in public?

Yes I know it’s a shit show BTW.

Meh - Samantha was always the best character anyway

[quote Yeswhatno]@NandorTheRelentless
I watched the original series, and it was witty and funny, and intelligent, and talked about important issues

genuine question:
What were the important issues?

I was pretty young when I watched and haven’t seen that many episode and all I can remember is fashion, shoes, hair and sex.
So very shallow show what I remember.[/quote]
Issues like women enjoy sex (mainly Samantha), not every woman wants a husband and family (Carrie) issues that come up about sex like when is it ok to x y z

[quote Yeswhatno]@NandorTheRelentless
I watched the original series, and it was witty and funny, and intelligent, and talked about important issues

genuine question:
What were the important issues?

I was pretty young when I watched and haven’t seen that many episode and all I can remember is fashion, shoes, hair and sex.
So very shallow show what I remember.[/quote]
My first and last episode had Carrie trilling in her column that men and women were a bit like Northern Ireland Vs Eire - basically the same but slightly different perspectives, or some such unspeakable vapid shite.

Never tried again.

[quote DoucheCanoe]@NandorTheRelentless yes really.

If SATC was referenced in the title I wouldn't have opened the thread, the title and subject matter are part of a wider discussion that needs to be had.

This is the feminist chat section, not TV addicts![/quote]
Back of the net 🤣🤣🤣

@NandorTheRelentless

Okey, thank you.
I guess the sex stuff was more important issues then than they are now/for my age group.

We still need many more -not wanting husband/kids- rolemodels.

Yeah I watched it and enjoyed it. I loved the old series in the 90s and the first movie. Yes the second movie was cringy and a bit of this new series is but I like it and will continue to like it I’m sure.

[quote Yeswhatno]@NandorTheRelentless
I watched the original series, and it was witty and funny, and intelligent, and talked about important issues

genuine question:
What were the important issues?

I was pretty young when I watched and haven’t seen that many episode and all I can remember is fashion, shoes, hair and sex.
So very shallow show what I remember.[/quote]
I loved it first time round. I thought it was witty and funny and intelligent writing. I loved the clothes.

I don't remember it dealing with important issues and I do recall thinking it was fairly shallow most of the time. I don't have the slightest problem with shallow.

kimikos nightmare yes it’s mainly a comedy about 4 womens lives. No point analysing it. The beautiful clothes are still there, the relationships and life problems. I love it and I’m glad it’s back.

@PiscesSt

Yeah I watched it and enjoyed it. I loved the old series in the 90s and the first movie. Yes the second movie was cringy and a bit of this new series is but I like it and will continue to like it I’m sure.

Yes, I agree first film wasn't too bad but the second Jesus, it was embarrassing to watch it was so bad.

It was a genuinely funny comedy that had four female leads. This is still fairly unusual. It's very unusual still that the focus was female friendship, with relationships as the side story. And all four characters were relatively developed.

The Frank discussion around sex was very very unusual for the time.

But mainly funny

I remember reading that SATC was written by gay men. The premise was that the female characters were basically gay men. This made it all make sense to me. I liked the fashion but never related to the characters or stories.

Have not seen the reboot but I will be very surprised if there's any pushback against the pronouns. It'll be all about educating the silly old women about what really matters. Their journey will be all about learning from the youth.

I hope I'm wrong.

Op is that verbatim?

The man can't think of ANYWHERE he hasn't wanked in public?

Really ???

Outside a primary school at hometime?
In an old people's home common room?
In the middle of the road at a festival with a matching band walking towards him?
In a popular area in a children's play park?
In the middle of a rally for trump supporters?
At a funeral?

He sounds extremely dangerous.
Surely at least some of those would be a crime?

And they have a man who wanks in public spaces constantly, taking the piss out of a WOMAN for not doing it?

Did the writers think this through?

Why did they decide to, in a film which will have huge audiences. Decide to present men wanking their cocks frequently and at all and sundry strangers. As just totally normal. And why don't women do it. Even though everybody knows. This is hardly uncommon for men to do, it's a fetish that is known to escalate sometimes to terrible crimes. It's really not ok to masturbate in public let alone everywhere. And. That's it's not something linked to women doing it, and this is also something everybody knows.

I'm really wtf tbh.

What's the certificate.

I liked Sam best as well. Apart from the character played, she was the only one with any fucking charisma.

Sorry series not film.
Still masses of people will watch it.
And they decide that's what to give them?

What were they THINKING???!!

[quote Justsotirednow]@NandorTheRelentless

Okey, thank you.
I guess the sex stuff was more important issues then than they are now/for my age group.

We still need many more -not wanting husband/kids- rolemodels.[/quote]
Its less important now, because it was important then.

Even that close in 'history' the sex they had/talked about was not mainstream, was not discussed - anal sex, blow jobs, taste of sperm

All of those discussions were on a tv show that wasnt porn (was riske - cant type the funny e) and pushed boundaries

Yeah, and what a loss that would have been.
Not sure why I would need to know who has anal and what some man’s sperm tastes like.

I guess that’s why I never bother watching the whole series, just don’t see why any of that is important.

It is good of course to those that value this kind of conversations.
There really isin’t any taboo anymore for having or talking any kind of sex.

@334bu

I think the point of the post is less to do with the quality of the newly rebooted Sex in the City and more to do with it being acceptable to express in a popular television show that public masturbation is totally normal and fine and that everybody does it.

No need nowadays to have a dirty old mac to open when you want to flash your dick in public.

Absolutely this. It is a sex offence. It is a crime. Ffs.

@Justsotirednow

Yeah, and what a loss that would have been. Not sure why I would need to know who has anal and what some man’s sperm tastes like.

I guess that’s why I never bother watching the whole series, just don’t see why any of that is important.

It is good of course to those that value this kind of conversations.
There really isin’t any taboo anymore for having or talking any kind of sex.

There really isin’t any taboo anymore for having or talking any kind of sex.

but there was, and now there isnt

you might not need to know, and quite frankly I personally have got through life without tasting sperm, but I know thats just me - and the world doesnt revolve around me

Arrgh lost long post!

I wasn't an avid viewer but watched it.

Sam was brilliant.
Constantly highlighting the massive double standards between men and women when it comes to sex.

I remember-

Just ignored what others thought/said about her lifestyle. so what, I'm doing my thing (although seem to remember sometimes got to her which was important v much).

A woman who really enjoyed sex but had zero buy in to societal expectations IE settle down, marry, babies etc.

And even her friends pushed it at her. Wouldn't you like a relationship? What about children? You can't keep on like this forever you're getting older. Etc.

Much much younger bf.

And the breast cancer storyline.

Plus she was the only one with any charisma at all.

I think you had to be there. It was of it's time. A lot of it was seen as outrageous to mention.

Back then yes theoretically things had moved on. Well they had but generally a prog starring 4 women (unusual in itself) talking about sex openly was v unusual indeed.

The message essentially was.

Women can and do enjoy sex.

Expecting generally to enjoy it and hopefully come not a pipe dream. Esp in a relationship. Women expecting to enjoy het sex should be a norm not a hope.

Consent obv. Can't remember all but I remember the sex being enthusiastic on both sides which is how it should be esp when one off first chunk of relationships. Which is how it should be.

Lots of sex to not wanting sex outside LTR both fine. Do what you want to do.

All that sort of thing.

Iirc there was also stuff about. Some things like thrush? Can't quite remember but sure stuff like that.

The things women do/ feel/ chat to their very close female friends about. On the screen? That was surprisingly, not really seen at the time.

Yes it was of it's time. Has massively dated. If see now it's got massive flaws and hard to remember why was so popular.

I don't think writing it off completely is fair though.

Miranda was good but hated the way they often characterised her.

Charlotte meh. Funny though.

Carrie was vile. Self centred, stalky, no empathy, vain, shallow, judgemental mainly to women due to their clothes/ look. She behaved outrageously badly to any women who had something she wanted.
Often nasty to her friends.

I have a rough idea what narcissism is, I think that's her..?

BUT I always assumed audience were supposed to think she was horrible.

The things they had her say do think etc. It was too often and consistent for it not to have been intention to make her just an awful person.

But...

What about the OP?

Carrie bring laughed at by a man who can't think of anywhere he hasn't masturbated in public.

Any other thoughts?

I'm totally wtf why? Just WHY?

The show is now written by a 70+ gay man who has no interest in middle-aged women. And that shows.

@NandorTheRelentless

but there was, and now there isnt

That’s exactly what I said.

The normalisation of what is really deviant t behaviour is very worrying. It is the same attitude that has people saying of the women complaining about the flasher in the Wi Spa in Los Angeles, that they shouldn't have been looking at his penis anyway.