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If a general election was called, who would you vote for?

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Anothernamechange3 · 07/12/2021 22:42

Or really, who can I vote for? I don’t want to vote Tory, especially after today’s revelations. I also don’t feel happy voting Labour or Green, for reasons often discussed on this board. Is there a party you’d feel happy to vote to be in power if you had a chance to, say, tomorrow? Feeling pretty despondent

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XDownwiththissortofthingX · 07/12/2021 22:48

I don't vote for parties, I either decide to give my vote to a local candidate that I can live with potentially becoming an MP/MSP or I don't. With SGE list vote I back my chosen party, but unfortunately there's no really control over who they then send to parliament, so you end up with loons like Annie Wells and unelectable perma-losers like Murdo Fraser somehow having a job for life despite being totally incapable of winning a constituency election of any kind.

Twilight7777 · 07/12/2021 22:49

I wouldn’t vote. If it was possible I’d do a protest vote

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 07/12/2021 22:49

My area is such a stronghold for one major party I’m completely disillusioned with it and my vote would literally have zero impact.

CrispAndFrosty · 07/12/2021 22:50

I like the sound of the new SDP but they are teeny-tiny. So, and I can't believe I'm saying this, I would vote Tory. I don't think I'm under too many illusions about them, but one thing I've noticed is that they do seem to be keener on freedom of thought and intellectual inquiry and differences of opinion. It seems like Labour - and the other parties - are thoroughly captured from the grassroots to the cowering top, and dissenters aren't allowed to speak up. I've realised that freedom of conscience and freedom of thought are the most important values for me, without which all else is trivial. I had just taken them.for granted up until recently.

It's a shame, as I have a Labour MP who I'm pretty sure gets it, but won't say so publicly.

WomenR · 07/12/2021 22:53

From now on I will be voting by candidate rather than party. The first qualifying question is easy: What is a woman?

Anontwentyone · 07/12/2021 22:54

Tory.

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Anothernamechange3 · 07/12/2021 22:55

I agree with voting for my local representative rather than who I want to be pm/majority in government. However my mp who I’m very happy with is Labour, and I’m v disappointed with the ‘party line’. I suppose I need to try and talk to this person in the hope they’ll understand and represent my concerns. I’m not convinced voting for a smaller party that might align with my values more actually helps, or dilutes the vote a bit to enable conservatives to get back in again. It’s so sad that I passionately believe in voting, especially when it’s not that long ago that I wouldn’t have been able to purely because of my sex, but it does make me feel it’s a bit pointless.

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FindingMeno · 07/12/2021 22:56

So long as I have a gasp of breath in my body I will never vote Tory.
I usually work on the basis of which party is most likely to keep them out.
Starmer doesn't appeal to me at all though and I'm thoroughly pissed off with the Labour Party since their determination to sink Corbyn and proper socialist values.
After Clegg snuggling up with Cameron I'll not be voting yellow, so I guess it'll be Green and maybe they'll get to keep their deposit.
It's a depressing shitshow.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 07/12/2021 22:59

It's completely unacceptable that there is not "none of the candidates are suitable" option.

When recruiting for a job you dont just pick the best of a bad bunch, you choose the person who is right for the job and if that's none of the ones interviewed, you go back to the drawing board.

TheMarzipanDildo · 07/12/2021 22:59

I used my list vote for the Communist Party of Great Britain in the most recent elections in Scotland. Mainstream Grin

It’s difficult, isn’t it?

TheMarzipanDildo · 07/12/2021 23:00

I wish I was in Canterbury so I could vote for Rosie Duffield.

Triphazards · 07/12/2021 23:03

Tory seems the most sensible way to vote. I'd go with that.

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Anothernamechange3 · 07/12/2021 23:10

I haven’t considered Lib Dems since my one and only ever vote for them resulted in a coalition with the conservatives and a quick glance at their equalities page of their website makes lots of reference to gender and gender identity but not sex. Does this mean what I suspect it does? Why is sex not allowed in this list?

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TheMarzipanDildo · 07/12/2021 23:10

@Triphazards

Tory seems the most sensible way to vote. I'd go with that.
I would do that, but I disagree with them on almost everything other than self ID Sad I’m not someone who could never contemplate voting Tory (it would depend on the candidate) but they seem incredibly unappealing at the moment. It’s scandal after scandal.
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Anothernamechange3 · 07/12/2021 23:11

Sorry I forgot to post the pic. And also apologies, I’m sure you’ve all discussed this before and are well aware

If a general election was called, who would you vote for?
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TheMarzipanDildo · 07/12/2021 23:12

Yeah the Lib Dems are fully on board with gender woo.

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Anothernamechange3 · 07/12/2021 23:12

I agree re Tory vote: as much as this is a v important issue for me, other things are too which mean I just can’t give them it.

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KimikosNightmare · 07/12/2021 23:12

Conservative or Liberal Democrat- nothing to do with gender issues - whichever is most likely to keep the SNP out.

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Anothernamechange3 · 07/12/2021 23:15

I just need to hope that the visibility of the issues and the more mainstream press coverage that seems to be happening will mean there will be a party I’m happy to support by the time 2024 comes along. Am I naive or do things seem a bit more hopeful than they did two years ago? (not better, but more hopeful)

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Mochudubh · 07/12/2021 23:34

@TheMarzipanDildo

I used my list vote for the Communist Party of Great Britain in the most recent elections in Scotland. Mainstream Grin

It’s difficult, isn’t it?

I've pretty much voted SNP most of my adult life, because I want Scotland to be independent. Since coming into power in Scotland, despite the set-up supposed to stop any one party having a majority, the SNP have had to scramble for other policies, And in a bid to keep voters have swallowed Kool-aid wholesale.

I've looked into other parties, I considered the Socialist Workers, but reading their blurb they've totally gone down the TWAW rabbit hole, so currently the Communists seem to be the only ones standing up for women. Unless anything changes the Communists will be getting my vote.

Enough4me · 07/12/2021 23:37

Unsure as I cannot support TWAW as I know TWATW and still male.

HorsdoeuvresInTheGarage · 07/12/2021 23:41

SDP

BreadInCaptivity · 07/12/2021 23:45

Another who will vote by candidate.

I'm done with ruining my vote as an ex-LP member.

If that's a vote for the Conservatives, I'll make my peace with that but I'm hoping for an independent or someone left leaning who knows which sex has a cervix.

daisyjgrey · 07/12/2021 23:46

@Triphazards

Tory seems the most sensible way to vote. I'd go with that.

What!

Seroi · 07/12/2021 23:51

Labour.