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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

If a general election was called, who would you vote for?

443 replies

Anothernamechange3 · 07/12/2021 22:42

Or really, who can I vote for? I don’t want to vote Tory, especially after today’s revelations. I also don’t feel happy voting Labour or Green, for reasons often discussed on this board. Is there a party you’d feel happy to vote to be in power if you had a chance to, say, tomorrow? Feeling pretty despondent

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ScreamingMeMe · 08/12/2021 11:10

@SirChenjins

What the hell has happened to political discourse

It died the day Boris Johnson was elected as our PM.

Yes, I think we have our own version of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Boris and Brexit Derangement Syndrome.

notangelinajolie · 08/12/2021 11:11

Conservative.

ScreamingMeMe · 08/12/2021 11:13

How mature you are Declare

Labour supporters put me off their party almost as much as their MPs and policies do.

And you must have missed my post where I said I would spoil my ballot - again.

Anyway, I shall ignore any more abusive, senseless posts from you.

ArabellaScott · 08/12/2021 11:15

I think Declare is a false flag working for the Tories. Must be.

SickAndTiredAgain · 08/12/2021 11:16

I live in a constituency with a current cabinet member as an MP. Last election he had 4k more votes than the labour candidate, and 20k more votes than third place.
So I’d vote labour.

trumpisagit · 08/12/2021 11:18

I live in a Tory safe seat. I don't really feel my vote matters. However I normally vote lib dem/ Green.
There is no obvious party.

FourTeaFallOut · 08/12/2021 11:18

@ArabellaScott

I think Declare is a false flag working for the Tories. Must be.
It's not a stance that is so dissimilar to many others. Using shame as a proxy for dialogue is par for the course nowadays. If Declare is posting in bad faith she is in good company.
ScreamingMeMe · 08/12/2021 11:19

@ArabellaScott

I think Declare is a false flag working for the Tories. Must be.
I do wonder about these people. It's not exactly a vote-winner, is it?
Awkwardy · 08/12/2021 11:21

Some of the parties are fighting back from the inside - this is the Lib Dems self-organised "voice for women". The genderwoo misogynists hate it.

liberalvoiceforwomen.org/

ArabellaScott · 08/12/2021 11:22

I think if we could all agree to just not use dehumanising names and threats, that would be a good starting point.

PatsArrow · 08/12/2021 11:22

I'm in a safe Labour seat.

If there was a candidate I would vote SDP. If not, Tory. It's a single vote issue for me.

I'm hoping that Boris is dumped from the party by the next ejection and Lis Truss might be in his place. Maybe wishful thinking but I've got to daydream.

inferiorCatSlave · 08/12/2021 11:27

@SpeedRunParent

It really worries me how many people would vote based on a single issue. People may not agree with 'gender woo' but would you really place your opinion about other people gender orientation over how much investment our mental health / social care / nhs services receive? Really?
Maybe I'm luckier there.

I've voted Labour and Plaid Cymru before but worry about their stance on women's rights - but there's other things I have massive issues with.

It's a Labour council and a Labour Welsh Government - so education and NHS and other things are Labour control and frankly looking more dire every day.

The Local Labour MP doesn't seem to have been very visble at all and seems like rest of Labour very complacent. I do feel this area and the votes here have been taken for granted - so I will look at the second party here which last time was conservative - if it's a decent candiate I'll vote for them despite thinking Boris's government is bumbling mess at best.

Floisme · 08/12/2021 11:33

I wouldn't vote Labour now because of their attitude towards women and because the left now seems to look down on working class people, and also because of their authoritarian tendencies which I find quite alarming.

I wouldn't vote Conservative because I disagree with pretty much all their policies. I don't trust them either not to backtrack on self ID if they thought there were votes in it.

I can't even be bothered to expend words on why I wouldn't vote Lib Dem or Green.

I would probably vote SDP if they fielded someone, or for a sensible independent.
Failing that I guess I'd have to spoil my vote - I'd be sad about that but I wouldn't feel guilty.

PatsArrow · 08/12/2021 11:33

Moderate and fairly on-the-fence Democrats voted for Biden thinking that he would really implement all the staunch gender policies he told them would.

Literally the first thing he did was scrap Title 9 rendering Women's rights null and void.

Yes, it's a single issue for me. The most important for a whole range of reasons.

PatsArrow · 08/12/2021 11:34

*wouldn't really

FourTeaFallOut · 08/12/2021 11:43

Did this thread start in Feminism chat?Confused It may have done and I just missed it, I thought it was in regular old chat?

Signalbox · 08/12/2021 11:48

I would potentially vote Tory but when I wrote to my Tory MP about the issue of male sex offenders in the female estate he wrote back some waffly nonsense about having to treat everyone with respect and that there was no evidence that trans women were causing any problems in the female estate. When I wrote back saying there wouldn't be any evidence because the data is not being collected he ignored me. The Tories have had the opportunity over years to implement the single sex exceptions and have failed to do so. I think They are slowing up the damage done by gender ideology but they are leaving all the hard work to women's organisations and individuals which is cowardly. There are obviously a few Tories who do care and who speak out about this issue and I am grateful for them, I do think that they are making a difference. I can't see myself voting for a party that doesn't recognise my biological sex so that's Labour, Lib Dems and Greens. I live in a Tory safe area anyway so it makes little difference how I vote so I think I might just pointlessly spoil my ballot with a Woman: AHF sticker.

daisyjgrey · 08/12/2021 12:10

@FourTeaFallOut

Did this thread start in Feminism chat?Confused It may have done and I just missed it, I thought it was in regular old chat?

It appears feminism has gone so far left, it's now hard right 🤦🏼‍♀️

MeanMrMustardSeed · 08/12/2021 12:15

Tory, but I’d be really pissed off that I’d been put in that position. I hope (and expect) that by the next general election there will be a credible conservative leader in place for PM.

GreenWhiteViolet · 08/12/2021 12:18

I don't think I could vote. I'm further to the right economically than most on this board, but the Tories are hypocritical and incompetent. I voted for them last time, but I don't think they deserve my vote right now.

All the rest have either had their minds addled by woke nonsense, or are cowards who go along with it despite not believing in it, with the exception of the Communist Party, and they're not an an option because I'm essentially a classical liberal.

So I stay home, or I spoil my ballot with a feminist sticker.

FourTeaFallOut · 08/12/2021 12:20

It appears feminism has gone so far left, it's now hard right

I am genuinely asking if the thread has been shifted.

Anothernamechange3 · 08/12/2021 12:40

@FourTeaFallOut

Did this thread start in Feminism chat?Confused It may have done and I just missed it, I thought it was in regular old chat?
Yes it did, I thought the topic would make it clear I meant in regards to gender ideology/ protection of sex bases spaces/child safeguarding etc, but have now realised I should have put that in the op as if it comes up in active conversations people might not notice the topic title. There are obviously lots of other legitimate reasons why many of us are struggling to believe there’s a party that would truly represent us though Sad
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FourTeaFallOut · 08/12/2021 12:45

No worries, that's on me. I just missed it. I usually try to tone down the scrappiness on the odd occasion that I post here with the proper grown ups. I'll head back to aibu now. Grin

daisyjgrey · 08/12/2021 13:02

@FourTeaFallOut

It appears feminism has gone so far left, it's now hard right

I am genuinely asking if the thread has been shifted.

Oh 😂 Not as far as I'm aware. There's a very similar thread running in chat though, which might explain it.

KimikosNightmare · 08/12/2021 13:04

@SpeedRunParent

It really worries me how many people would vote based on a single issue. People may not agree with 'gender woo' but would you really place your opinion about other people gender orientation over how much investment our mental health / social care / nhs services receive? Really?
The SNP exists soley for one (deranged) single issue.

The level of monomaniacal derangement is such that even after all that has happened in the last 18 months and domestic crisis such as the apparently inexorable slide of Scottish education down international league tables and the apparently inexorable slide up the league tables in drug deaths , the separatists still think the most pressing concern is running another separatist referendum.