PM on Radio 4: what is gender identity?

[nauticant]

Evan Davis said that there will be a "good natured" chat about this in tonight's programme. This will give him a chance to demonstrate again his well-known impartiality on this issue.

It's not yet clear when this segment will be in the programme.

Well we've had clown fish so now penguins and lions... quite the circus 🎪 🤡

Hmm. Have they asked ALL the lions and penguins? 🤔

IW: innate biological gender

ED: why should this be a vicious argument Kathleen?

Gender is like shoes which are all very nice and easy?

IW is spouting such egregious bollocks

“Where I disagree with KS’s position…”

Geez, IW, you haven’t let her state her position once!

Oooh more chats to be had ...

IW voice is not as "gentle" as they started. Hmm talking over a woman and dismissing her...

Evan Davis is saying this is a start and is inviting IW and KS to look forward into this over the next few months.

Is that it? "Helpful discussion"? That wasn't a discussion, it was a sound bite.

Great! More discussion!

With more people...! 🍿

#NoDebate is definitely over.

Oh dear India is making statistics up.

They have just stuck the the 'personal experience' side of things - way to go!

I am pleased this discussion has happened and that they have pledged to do it again.

What is a biological gender?

Big dollop of mansplaining and "now what are you ladies talking about, a man is here". Buuuuutttt , more sunlight is a good thing. And No Debate is over.

"#NoDebate is definitely over" and one side is engaging in unarmed combat, Lizzie.

There was a lot of telling us all what Kathleens Stock thinks - I thought that is what Kathleen was there for

Very poor. We heard what Evan Davis thinks. Also that he doesn't want to get into the practical considerations but the philosophy. And that he doesn't understand why it is so toxic. The practical considerations of the philosphy are WHY it is so "toxic". That made me cross. Definitely lots of heat from India. No light at all on why many women are so angry. If the coverage is going to be like this, it will be worse than useless.

I do enjoy radio discussions between women and men who identify as women. They're very illuminating I think.

@LizzieSiddal

Penguins!

I think I'll take a trip to the zoo to question them on this. Please could I ask your gender Pingu ?

Placemarking

You should ask Feathers McGraw, he identifies as a chicken.

Didn't hear it - can anyone quickly just write the definition here?
Ta v much.

gender identity just quite simply who you are - so if you don't have one, you are a nobody. Cool I guess.