Still profiting off JK Rowling i see

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So, the Hogwarts turncoats are getting back together, sans Rowling.

They have a brass neck, that's for sure.

Happy to ring every last penny they can out of the franchise whilst continuing to sell Rowling down the river.

Zero moral compass between them. Either they back Rowling, and thank her for the fact anyone other than their mum knows they exist, or they renounce and walk away. You dont get to have it both ways.

www.theguardian.com/film/2021/nov/17/harry-potter-cast-return-to-hogwarts-to-mark-20th-anniversary-of-first-film

Might not be the only charity Emma Watson will have to pretend she never supported.

This is a quote from an article by Jo Bartosch, concerning the organisation Mama Cash.

In 2018, international and domestic NGOs collaborated to prevent the passing of the Trafficking of Persons Bill in India. This was heralded as a victory by the Netherlands-based Mama Cash, which claimed the bill, “conflated trafficking with sex work, which would have increased stigma, discrimination and violence against sex workers, reduced their autonomy and agency, and threatened their human rights”.

The campaign, part funded byMama Cash,undermined the work of grassroots feminist activists in India like Vaishnavi Sundar. After years of working to stop the sex trade, Sundar, a documentary film-maker and activist based in Chennai, sees the halting of the anti-trafficking bill as a form of ideological imperialism:

“In a country that is known for its ineffectual jurisprudence where women fight for three or four decades for any legal recourse, it is disquieting to see Western organisations like Mama Cash siding with groups that further amplify women’s sexual exploitation. While ‘sex work’ may benefit a minority group, to halt a bill that could potentially save thousands of children over semantics is cruel and anti-women.”

thecritic.co.uk/issues/june-2021/putting-women-last/

@scarpa
Nor did Helena Bonham Carter, or Gary Oldman, or Michael Gambon. Is it only the young actors who you believe should forever be in her debt who should fight her corner?

Those three didn’t put out statements or give interviews condemning her words like the trio did. A better example would have been Eddie Redmayne, who had an established career before he was involved with Harry Potter, is a decade older than the main three and who condemned her essay after she wrote it. And did he get criticised for it by people on here? Why yes, he did.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3935326-That-Eddie-Redmayne-is-a-self-serving-privileged-prick

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3941875-Eddie-Redmayne-reportedly-wants-JK-Rowling-sacked-from-Fantastic-Beasts

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4036627-Redmayne-Reverse-Ferret

The last thread is along similar lines and a similar situation to this one, actually.

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

Eek those tweets…..

She’s a slimy smug self righteous little fucker isn’t she?

That’s a lot to be embarrassed about later in life.

@KimikosNightmare

Nor did Helena Bonham Carter, or Gary Oldman, or Michael Gambon. Is it only the young actors who you believe should forever be in her debt who should fight her corner?

Well all of them had prestigious careers long before Harry Potter. HP neither established nor defined their careers so not analogous at all.

And I don't recall any of them falling over themselves to weigh in about how much they supported trans rights and how wrong JKR was to say what she said.

That's precisely my point, though - you seem to be saying that because the 3 leads' careers started in the film adaptation of her books that they're not allowed to say that they disagree with her. Which I think is a weird thing to say, they don't owe her that when she was sharing a view they disagreed with.

A lot of comments in thread seem to be along the lines of "How DARE they, they owe her". And... no, they don't owe her that. If people on the thread dislike them because they think they're wrong, fine, but don't make out like the issue is that they're disloyal insubordinate kids.

That's precisely my point, though - you seem to be saying that because the 3 leads' careers started in the film adaptation of her books that they're not allowed to say that they disagree with her. Which I think is a weird thing to say, they don't owe her that when she was sharing a view they disagreed with

Er no I can't speak for others but that's not what I'm saying. I referred to their lack of any support for Rowling in the abuse she was receiving. I haven't said what you claim I've said.

You then, for reasons which escape me, started referring to Bonham Carter et al. I'm not aware of any of them rushing to condemn Rowling the way this trio did.

@MargaritaPie

When you refer to “Ms K”, do you actually mean Ms R, eg JK Rowling?

Whatever she calls herself. Apparently she's also "Robert" for some reason.

btw, just thinking out loud here, how come she doesn't believe a man can turn into a woman but she's perfectly happy for a white person to turn black? (ie Hermione)

A race change is ok for JK Robert, but not sex.

Herminone's race isn't mentioned in the books. Not once. What she said is that given there's no description of race in the books, there's no reason why a black woman SHOULDN'T be cast in the play. A play she didn't do the casting for.

*btw, just thinking out loud here, how come she doesn't believe a man can turn into a woman but she's perfectly happy for a white person to turn black? (ie Hermione)

A race change is ok for JK Robert, but not sex.*

Changing race and changing sex are both entirely fictional constructs so perhaps your point isn't as strong as you think it is. Anything is possible in the imaginary world. The real world not so much. Sort of why literary fiction is so popular ...

Why did she even write about polyjuice if she didn't think people could transform into other people?

Characters often change appearance and sometimes sex between page and screen or from production to production. All female Shakespeare for example. Or indeed, any female Shakespeare given the originals were acted by an all male cast. The occasional fictional character even changes sex in their own timeline - Orlando, Dr Who, various sci-fi. Clue's in the "fictional".
Two of the three main characters in HP weren't a good match to their book descriptions. Harry's supposed to have black sticking up hair and green eyes. Hermione's supposed to have frizzy hair and big teeth. I don't think skin colour generally gets mentioned in Rowling's writing. I thought Strike was at least mixed race from the way his hair was described. The only reason I ended up thinking he was white was Galbraith doesn't shy away from grubby realism and realistically he'd have come up against racism at some point if he wasn't.

And you kind of have to imagine the actor does have bright green eyes, otherwise all those teachers staring into his going "you have your mother's eyes" seem a bit creepy!

Day three of my vigil.

And still, no quotes or evidence to show JK Rowling's 'bigotry'.

There’s an article in the Telegraph today saying much of what’s been said on this thread.

@ArabellaScott

Day three of my vigil.

And still, no quotes or evidence to show JK Rowling's 'bigotry'.

That's very kind, FindTheTruth. What a lovely set. I notice the presence of 1. cake and 2. booze are somewhat lacking on that tray, though, if I may venture a small grumble.

Suffragists gotta suffer, I suppose.

@ArabellaScott

I mean, not that I was there.

I'm not quite that old.

You are Perenelle Flamel and I claim my five livres.

it's not like they can go back in time and turn the job down based on what they now know
@scarpa but what do they now know? Poor Arabella has been shivering out in the cold waiting for someone to tell us.

Love your persistence Arabella - I think we should probably all take you out to afternoon tea at the Ritz by day five. And I bet you still wont have a rational answer!

THATS MORE LIKE IT.

I mean, this is a vigil, not a hunger strike.

MN keeps going down - I keep thinking floods of people have logged on and are posting all the evidence of JKR's sins.

But - there is still nothing.

A cream tea vigil is one I can really get behind, by the way. I think we should have these more often. I mean, I can just keep going. If anyone wants to join me you are very welcome but you have to bring your own scones.

Nor did Helena Bonham Carter, or Gary Oldman, or Michael Gambon. Is it only the young actors who you believe should forever be in her debt who should fight her corner?
Did any of the three adults you mention join in the lynch mob?

Robbie Coltrane on the other hand said to the Radio Times:

"I don't think what she said was offensive really."

"I don't know why but there's a whole Twitter generation of people who hang around waiting to be offended."

"That's me talking like a grumpy old man, but you just think, 'Oh, get over yourself'"

Watson needs to pay her fucking tax before lecturing the rest of us.

According to Twitter, it looks like Radcliffe’s redemption owes more to his publicist than to his conscience…

@DdraigGoch

Nor did Helena Bonham Carter, or Gary Oldman, or Michael Gambon. Is it only the young actors who you believe should forever be in her debt who should fight her corner? Did any of the three adults you mention join in the lynch mob?

Robbie Coltrane on the other hand said to the Radio Times:

"I don't think what she said was offensive really."

"I don't know why but there's a whole Twitter generation of people who hang around waiting to be offended."

"That's me talking like a grumpy old man, but you just think, 'Oh, get over yourself'"

I am heartened by that.

@DdraigGoch

Nor did Helena Bonham Carter, or Gary Oldman, or Michael Gambon. Is it only the young actors who you believe should forever be in her debt who should fight her corner? Did any of the three adults you mention join in the lynch mob?

Robbie Coltrane on the other hand said to the Radio Times:

"I don't think what she said was offensive really."

"I don't know why but there's a whole Twitter generation of people who hang around waiting to be offended."

"That's me talking like a grumpy old man, but you just think, 'Oh, get over yourself'"

I don’t usually like "gotchas" as they often aren't or backfire but that's a splendid one !