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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

KPSS House of Lords tomorrow

274 replies

Isthatthebestyoucando · 14/11/2021 14:48

On Monday there is an amendment being tabled in the House of Lords to the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill which would stop men being held in women’s prisons.
Anyone on twitter please tweet #KeepProsonsSingleSex and #Amendment214 to show strength of feeling.

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2319inprogress · 15/11/2021 21:55

@nauticant

Shami Chakrabarti's approach is to sneer.
It was a new way of saying if you're against this you're a bigoted old white man anyway Hmm
MrsJamin · 15/11/2021 21:56

I can't believe we heard that from a Labour peer - I'm not hopeful for Chakrabardi TBH - she is talking absolute bollocks about being stuck in a lift?! She sounds like had not planned what she was going to say.

Signalbox · 15/11/2021 21:56

How to make your entire speech passive aggressive.

Isthatthebestyoucando · 15/11/2021 21:56

@Signalbox

God she's annoying!
Yes. A feminist saying cis woman. Confused
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Helleofabore · 15/11/2021 21:56

Chakrabarti is disappointing.

A make believe lift example as a comparison. What a dick move.

MrsJamin · 15/11/2021 21:57

How is the decision between a Lord and a female white supremacist?!

Signalbox · 15/11/2021 21:57

Is she even going to make a point.

2319inprogress · 15/11/2021 21:58

I think the point of the lift was to say if you think TWAM then you're basically racist Confused
Good god she speaks so bloody slowly

Helleofabore · 15/11/2021 21:59

Oh. So transmen shouldn’t be in a women’s prison. Good to know…

oldwomanwhoruns · 15/11/2021 22:00

So Chakrabati would feel more threatened by a white woman than a man?? Wtf??

Isthatthebestyoucando · 15/11/2021 22:01

She really wants to shut them up. Miss gendering accusations.

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OllyBJolly · 15/11/2021 22:01

She’s hopeless. How dare she define “cis” as if it’s an accepted term. Awful.

Helleofabore · 15/11/2021 22:02

And now she is language policing…

Go Baroness Fox.

Clymene · 15/11/2021 22:02

When I was spending a lot of time around Westminster, I watched Chakribarti schmoozing. Literally don't think I was ever in portcullis house for lunch and she wasn't there.

She is a career politician but just via the back door.

TeamRex · 15/11/2021 22:02

@Signalbox

Is she even going to make a point.

No.

oldwomanwhoruns · 15/11/2021 22:05

She has just said that Baroness Brinton was thoughtful and sensitive.

Were we both listening to the same speech???

Isthatthebestyoucando · 15/11/2021 22:05

She's Stonewalled off her tits.

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Datun · 15/11/2021 22:07

@Isthatthebestyoucando

She's Stonewalled off her tits.
🤣
Signalbox · 15/11/2021 22:07

Baroness Faulkner. This will be interesting.

Isthatthebestyoucando · 15/11/2021 22:11

The do have vulnerable prisoner wings though don't they.

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ArabellaScott · 15/11/2021 22:12

@Isthatthebestyoucando

She's Stonewalled off her tits.
Grin
oldwomanwhoruns · 15/11/2021 22:12

Chakrabati still going "behaviours that both sexes are capable of"
Wot, like rape?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/11/2021 22:13

Christ Chakrabarti is awful. I remember when she made pointed comments about people who won't accept "refugees from their sex" and how we might die in a fire if we're not careful. I'm sure it's just coincidental that that is one of the most common things TRAs say to gender critical feminists when they want to threaten us.

How can I put it - I am not the sex police. I don't want to police the borders between these segregated sexes and I'm not going to say to any refugee or migrant to my sex that you don't belong over here. And you know what, if you lock the house too tightly, you might just die in the fire. And what I want is not to be more segregated but to be less so, and I want us, in the end, to all be human. And I know there are difficult issues around the transition to that place we're heading to, but let's try to have the conversations in a different climate, and when we do disagree let's just please all try and disagree with sensitivity and disagree well."

She paused for a moment before she said "you might just die in the fire". Not saying she meant it like that, but it's a notable pause so she clearly considered her words carefully.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3431422--BristolUniWomen-Shami-Chakrabarti-event-tonight?pg=3

MrsJamin · 15/11/2021 22:17

Lord Paddick, I don't care how earnestly people think they believe a lie, they are still believing a lie. And this lie shouldn't mean that they get to sleep next door to very vulnerable women.

littlbrowndog · 15/11/2021 22:18

I signed off when piddocks came on. Chakrabati and the lift thing 🤣🤣🤣 bonkers