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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lush Binder Collection

267 replies

Sexnotgender · 08/11/2021 21:06

Assuming this is a way for predominantly children to circumvent parents and get their hands on a binder.

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Montagmarch · 08/11/2021 22:14

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CheeseMmmm · 08/11/2021 22:15

Is that lush shot in OP Facebook?

Do you know when OP?

I always like to see original iyswim.

I'm interested in if age check etc.

foxgoosefinch · 08/11/2021 22:16

Even without the potential rib damage, bidets really ruin the aesthetics of the natural breast. So all the young teenagers who are caught up in this ideology - often as a result of poor body image and low self esteem - then end up with damaged and unappealing breasts, which must make body image issues so much worse whether they transition or detransition.

At 18 you look at your ruined breasts in a mirror and then either you want to cut them off in a drastic surgery; or you’re left ashamed and sad about them? It’s awful.

I have always had large breasts and tried to minimise them as a teenager with flattening bras and so on. I really wanted small perky ones. But now I love them, and post bf they really are saggy and honestly I did not appreciate how gorgeous they actually were! It’s so sad to think of young girls with their lovely natural free bodies constructing and damaging them!

It’s so awful too to think that people are encouraging young girls to “treat” body image discomfort and distress by causing more guaranteed body distress. It’s sadistic; and yes, it’s going to come to be seen in the future as an appalling failure and terrible scandal, and anyone or any company who thinks this is ethical and progressive is stupid as fuck and ought to be held liable in the future.

foxgoosefinch · 08/11/2021 22:17

Binders not bidets! Gosh I really am tired and need to learn to preview for typos before posting 🤦‍♀️

ArabellaScott · 08/11/2021 22:19

It's on Lush Paddington's insta

www.instagram.com/lushpaddington/

Queenoftheashes · 08/11/2021 22:23

The fucking pronouns in the comments.

It’s clearly a vanity project from some trans employee.

ArabellaScott · 08/11/2021 22:23

This is the 'gender swap' CIC that is working in collab with Lush. They have done a 'back to school' tutorial

www.instagram.com/p/CUK_dLSp_Bb/

Queenoftheashes · 08/11/2021 22:24

Sam (he/they)
I think Sam means
Sam (aged 9)

Fallingirl · 08/11/2021 22:25

How does the law around this work? If someone is harmed as a result of a product from a given shop, that shop is liable, is it not?

Presumably shops have some form of liability insurance. I wonder if Lush’ insurers will cover them if an irate parent sues them over their daughter being harmed with a binder they facilitated?

Clymene · 08/11/2021 22:27

This is absolutely sick. Celebrating and encouraging girls to hate their bodies.

NetballHoop · 08/11/2021 22:28

Well I won't buy anything from them until this is dropped. I don't wish anyone to lose their jobs but I really don't want any young girls to be encouraged to bind.

foxgoosefinch · 08/11/2021 22:31

It needs tweeting to the papers, too - Times/Mail/Metro and so on if anyone here’s on Twitter. There’s a bit of pushback on it on Twitter already, but only a very polite thread so far.

Big fuss needed - it absolutely cannot be right that companies parading their collusion with damaging young girls’ bodies without their parents’ knowledge is seen as progressive and laudable. And they absolutely have to stop allowing daft junior employees free rein on their social media to promote all sorts of nonsense!

EarthSight · 08/11/2021 22:38

Wooooowwwww.

Could you post a direct link please?

Queenoftheashes · 08/11/2021 22:43

www.instagram.com/p/CWA6_94gN6-/?hl=en

PaterPower · 08/11/2021 22:49

Coming soon from a store near you:

  • pick up our foot binding wraps, available in a range of seasonal patterns!
  • don’t rack up air miles.. think of the environment and buy one of our DIY FGM kits
  • never grow up! Buy our puberty blocker gift pack. 50 points off your IQ guaranteed or your money back
Elleexxtra · 08/11/2021 22:52

@foxgoosefinch

It needs tweeting to the papers, too - Times/Mail/Metro and so on if anyone here’s on Twitter. There’s a bit of pushback on it on Twitter already, but only a very polite thread so far.

Big fuss needed - it absolutely cannot be right that companies parading their collusion with damaging young girls’ bodies without their parents’ knowledge is seen as progressive and laudable. And they absolutely have to stop allowing daft junior employees free rein on their social media to promote all sorts of nonsense!

I've emailed a few newsdesks... And lush head office.
foxgoosefinch · 08/11/2021 22:54

Just saw this kind of thing too, I had no idea so much of this stuff was out there:

www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a55546/how-to-bind-your-chest/

“If your partner loves you, they’ll love your decision to bind” Confused

When I was young Cosmopolitan was a feminist magazine! A bit sex-obsessed sure, but it was celebratory of women and body positive!

Why can’t these people see how they are reproducing practices and an ideology that is horrendously oppressive and misogynist? Why are younger women so taken in by it? I don’t understand it to be honest. I don’t understand how you could print articles like that and go along with this culture of self-harm and not recognise that what you’re doing is pretty evil (to use a strong word but, honestly, I think it is Sad)

Melroses · 08/11/2021 22:55

genderswap.org/binder-giveaway-info

Babysharkdoodoodood · 08/11/2021 22:55

@PaterPower

Coming soon from a store near you:
  • pick up our foot binding wraps, available in a range of seasonal patterns!
  • don’t rack up air miles.. think of the environment and buy one of our DIY FGM kits
  • never grow up! Buy our puberty blocker gift pack. 50 points off your IQ guaranteed or your money back

Sorry. Just nicked that to pop on their Instagram post. I don't care who knows who I am 😂

CheeseMmmm · 08/11/2021 22:58

Thanks for insta link.

So no minimum age.
No I dunno. I mean it's a big deal. It needs to fit. There are health warnings that need to be given. There could be serious issues with the ... Whatever age girl who wants one. Just measure rock up 7 quid done.
That's awful.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 08/11/2021 22:59

Have Lush lost their minds? Since when can organisations openly undermine fundamental principles about safeguarding children and adolescents?
Do they have no boundaries? Are they so in the grip of these organisations that children's safety is of no importance?

foxgoosefinch · 08/11/2021 23:10

I’m a trustee or board member at several different organisations, and as part of our routine governance we periodically scrutinise the institutional risk register. There are always sections for assessment of reputational risk, and the likelihood of negative press events and how you arrange your insitutional checks and balances to mitigate the risks of that. (And these are nonprofit organisations that are really unlikely to be in the firing line for reputational risk, have very boring core business and only have one or two professionals managing their SM feeds/press.)

But I cannot think that a big high street company with a press and marketing dept doesn’t know they shouldn’t be managing reputational risk, or running any of this kind of stuff past someone who’s job it is to make sure they don’t get negative press. Wtf are they doing? Why do so many companies seem to let whatever graduate trainee feels like it that day rock up organising their social media without thinking “ooo, is this “collab” a good look for us?”

Something’s gone very wrong if this went through internal marketing/PR etc. and nobody said “hang on a minute…what are these binders exactly…?” Or are they just all addled by too many articles like that Cosmopolitan one above?

user1745 · 08/11/2021 23:14

@jlpartnerrs

As a child with big boobs I' have been all over this like a rash at 13/14

Wouldn't you?

I would have been all over it too! I didn't/don't have big breasts but as a young teenager I was deeply embarrassed and ashamed over them. I used to wear baggy tops to hide my breasts as I felt everyone must be noticing them. A binder to flatten my growing breasts would have been ideal in my eyes! After a few months I got over the embarrassment of course, and without permanent bodily damage.
Isthatthebestyoucando · 08/11/2021 23:16

Pardon my ignorance, have I got the right idea that this is specifically for girls to bypass their parents by Lush acting as a delivery address?

That's very fucking groomy if that's the idea.

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