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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Virginia election and Loudon county

78 replies

Berthatydfil · 02/11/2021 18:03

Sorry it’s a daily Mail article www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10156749/Mother-skirt-wearing-teen-raped-female-classmate-says-identifies-male.html

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Doubletoilandtrouble · 02/11/2021 18:07

So the girl didn’t fight enough? Nice slut shaming.

Doubletoilandtrouble · 02/11/2021 18:10

The mother of the rapist claims that a 15 year old girl being anally raped by a 15 year old boy needs to fight harder to show that she isn’t keen?

InspiralCoalescenceRingdown · 02/11/2021 18:42

Everything about this story is horrible. Christ.

TheMarzipanDildo · 02/11/2021 18:53

Fucking hell Angry She is really trying to defend the indefensible there.

That poor, poor girl.

TedImgoingmad · 02/11/2021 19:02

She wants to protect his fucking identity, when everyone knows who the girl's father is, and therefore the victim has lost her anonymity. She's a revolting piece of work and I hope her precious son gets banged up for a long, long time.

MoveAhoy · 02/11/2021 19:12

Hey you know if you've had sex before, not once but twice, then rape is kind of like looking for sex with a willing partner.
I'm hoping that's the daily mail misportraying to whip up a frenzy. I can't imagine any mother with that level of cognitive dissonance.

That boy needs help though. He's already a repeat offender and he's not an adult.

PickAChew · 02/11/2021 19:14

Crikey.

MoveAhoy · 02/11/2021 19:15

Are we allowed to call him a boy here though? I have this feeling the mother might be denying his trans status to avoid the TRA bullying. I note the child itself did not state it was not trans.

nauticant · 02/11/2021 19:21

Are we allowed to call him a boy here though?

It seems we are when we're referring to convicted male sex offenders. I expect some pretext will be found to delete this thread though.

BrandineDelRoy · 02/11/2021 19:33

I also hate that the really awful photos of her dad being arrested and having his clothes pulled off keeps getting circulated. 90%+ of the people mocking him would look exactly the same or worse in that situation.

Doubletoilandtrouble · 02/11/2021 19:36

Think the child is gender fluid?

Doubletoilandtrouble · 02/11/2021 19:44

I think the boy tried to claim that the rape was an accident… the skirt got caught on his watch and it just…happened….

www.dailywire.com/news/report-loudoun-county-teen-claimed-sex-assault-was-an-accident-happened-when-his-skirt-snagged-on-wristwatch

The daily wire is a right wing publication but they were the source that broke the story in the first place

KittenKong · 02/11/2021 19:44

Wow - just wowzers. That mum sounds like an absolute fool.

A boy who identified as a boy and was wearing a skirt to ‘find himself’? Already been caught sending nudie photos to girls? Just wanted sex, the poor wee lamb (stopped short of saying ‘and the nasty girl wouldn’t oblige).

How can she even begin to try to explain his actions?

Chipperfish · 02/11/2021 20:05

She sounds a struggling mother to a very disturbed child, and I wont even get into her lack of empathy for the victim of the first attack, but several points stand out to me , and I dont think her intervention changes anything about the situation

  1. It doesnt matter if her child is trans or not - any confused, disturbed and predatory child like hers, (violent, overtly sexualised, playing about with clothes and presentation for attention) will be validated in any gender identity they choose, signaled by declaration and/or superficial presentation. There will be no questioning of this, and no consideration given to the rights and safety of others.
  1. School facilities like gender neutral (mixed sex) toilets and changing, normalize and give opportunity for behavior that has no place in school eg meeting up for sex
(and yes, I'm sure there have been teens having consensual and non consensual activities at school in all eras, but it wasn't exactly made easy by many methods, including facilities design, sex segregation and supervision)
  1. There is evidence that the school board knew about and therefore lied about not having had any problems or incidents when trying to pass the gender neutral bathroom policy, and they chose to attempt to silence this being aired and publicized
LobsterNapkin · 02/11/2021 20:25

The mother's not helping anyone, including her child, but I'm not going to assume she is malicious so much as desperate and not coping.

The idea that it was accidental anal sex due to a clothing malfunction - I am not sure I can think of a worse fake explanation.

BrandineDelRoy · 02/11/2021 21:22

@KittenKong

Wow - just wowzers. That mum sounds like an absolute fool.

A boy who identified as a boy and was wearing a skirt to ‘find himself’? Already been caught sending nudie photos to girls? Just wanted sex, the poor wee lamb (stopped short of saying ‘and the nasty girl wouldn’t oblige).

How can she even begin to try to explain his actions?

I agree with this. Her response confirms it.
Rightsraptor · 02/11/2021 23:57

The DM article says 'next year his world imploded'. This was when he committed the crime of rape. And it's HIS world that imploded??? Nothing he did caused it, naturally. He was just the poor victim of the whole thing.

FFS do journalists never listen to themselves?

TheBeardedVulture · 03/11/2021 00:40

Isn’t that a direct quote from the mother though?

Snugglepumpkin · 03/11/2021 02:40

Well, this definitely illustrates the danger of teaching everyone that 'gender' presentations should never be questioned.

If this boy was able to freely visit the girls bathroom purely because he put on a skirt & this was how he got the opportunity to rape a girl on more than one occasion, then it just proves that letting any male wearing female clothes into girls safe spaces is a serious safeguarding issue.

Not a 'concern' a real issue.

It doesn't matter if he thinks he is transgender or not, the wearing of girls clothes meant he was treated as such & that allowed him to commit crimes.

timeisnotaline · 03/11/2021 03:55

Is there any evidence at all he identified as a girl? I have also read in some versions that the toilets were not designated gender neutral or whatever until after the incident. Clearly a shit school, a shit parent, and a 15 year old rapist boy but I haven’t overly engaged with this story because it’s not clear it sells the dangers of trans friendly policies in the ways it’s being used, and we all look bad if we beat up incidents to fit the argument. It is a very very good reason for strictly single sex bathrooms, and more evidence of the dangers girls face from boys including in school.

NiceGerbil · 03/11/2021 03:59

Very very strange reporting.

My take-

  1. In general with schools USA here etc sex offences are hushed up
  2. This story would not be reported at all if not for the dad making a fuss etc
3.. Point 1 again- dad was fucked off because school said nothing happened go away etc and he wouldn't have it
  1. Whole article based on mum interview? To what end? How is that news? She sounds at end of tether and protective of son. Random bit about ex husband wife in middle? She's all over the shop.. The interview is imo exploitative
  2. Child has long history of inappropriate sexual behaviour, lack of understanding of consent, boundaries. (if mum words reflect reality). Has committed sex offences before and after the incident that got in the news.
  3. Judge has said yep rape.

Child sounds v dangerous.
All the accidental anal, had consensual sex in bogs before etc is from mum. Irresponsible to report with little caveats. IE could well be pack of lies.

Only trans thing for me is-

  1. Consensual or not. Sex in bogs is not great. They want teen couples going to bogs during breaks for privacy? And non consensual. Opportunities for boys to access places they can get locked door and trap girl. No no no.

But in fact,-

This boy had raped in bogs yes. Sometimes skirt sometimes not. Didn't ID as trans.. Sounds to be like any boy could follow girl in.
That is a massive issue.

He had forced different girl into classroom and assaulted. Again. Any boy could do.

Massive issue.

It's shit safety for girls full stop in at least 2 schools by my reading.

This is a male predator pupil situation in the end surely.

BrandineDelRoy · 03/11/2021 04:43

@TedImgoingmad

She wants to protect his fucking identity, when everyone knows who the girl's father is, and therefore the victim has lost her anonymity. She's a revolting piece of work and I hope her precious son gets banged up for a long, long time.
Exactly. He's not just known, he's being dragged half naked through the press.
BrandineDelRoy · 03/11/2021 04:46

I can say that schools in the US are very much divided by state. After that, they are divided by school districts. They generally conform to county lines but not always. I was in a school district that didn't correspond to our county.

ScreamingMeMe · 03/11/2021 07:16

@MoveAhoy

Hey you know if you've had sex before, not once but twice, then rape is kind of like looking for sex with a willing partner. I'm hoping that's the daily mail misportraying to whip up a frenzy. I can't imagine any mother with that level of cognitive dissonance.

That boy needs help though. He's already a repeat offender and he's not an adult.

I've seen TRAs on twitter saying the same thing, so it's not outside the realms of possibility.
nauticant · 03/11/2021 07:38

It looks like the Republican Youngkin is going to take the governorship from the Democrats. The reporting I'm hearing is that this is because of disenchantment with Biden, with no mention of Loudoun County. I wonder what the reality is?