BBC article about cotton ceiling

[GingerAndTheBiscuits]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-57853385 including Angela Wild, Rose of Dawn and Debbie Hayton. There’s no way this would have been published even just a few months ago 🤯

Yes sent a compliment. Strangely much easier than the complaint form...

How do you send a compliment?

I’ve just sent a compliment. Literally took seconds.

Compliment sent.

The brass neck of these people complaining about a story based on small number self referring individuals. The IOC's bullshit about trans male born athletes is based on 8 people.

I sent a compliment earlier.

I'd be interested to read the complaints. If most have come via twitter I bet a good proportion will not have been able to moderate their language into something sensible that doesn't begin with "suck my".

@JacquelineCarlyle www.bbc.co.uk/contact/comments-feedback

I imagine people are complaining to BBC that the article further stigmatises trans people who are an oppressed group of people who are sometimes subject to violence and/or driven to suicide due to bullying or lack of acceptance or poor healthcare etc. While this may be true and very sad, it shouldn't mean that radical trans ideology is above criticism.

Thanks @bellinisurge - compliment sent.

I mean, it's called the 'cotton ceiling'. What else do these people need to know. It's so rapey. And Stonewall employ the [person] who ran a course using that term in the title........ Now Stonewall educate children in state schools.

Compliment sent.

[quote whatwasIgoingtosay]I have sent feedback to the BBC thanking them for publishing this, etc. Please do the same, everyone. They reckon that one piece of feedback represents the views of about 100 others, so if we all write in it will be seen as massive vindication and encouragement. Here's the link again (and thanks to others who have posted it): www.bbc.co.uk/contact/comments-feedback/#/review[/quote]
I've done the same.
It matters, make no mistake the wrong side of history will be bombarding them.
Get your rational thanks in now.

Me too!

@Gmom

I imagine people are complaining to BBC that the article further stigmatises trans people who are an oppressed group of people who are sometimes subject to violence and/or driven to suicide due to bullying or lack of acceptance or poor healthcare etc. While this may be true and very sad, it shouldn't mean that radical trans ideology is above criticism.

If you look at the stats you’ll find that tw in the uk are the group at least risk of being murdered, that the sui stats come from a study of only 27, all of whom had previous mh problems and that the nhs say trans children don’t present any higher risk of sui that children under care of camhs (which presumably includes kids diagnosed through camhs with autism age 5 and up).

You need to learn the difference between prejudice, discrimination and oppression. Because while transmen and female nb people are oppressed tw are not. Miranda Yardley has a very easy to understand and short but very effective explanation on his website (Mir uses male pronouns, so I respect his preference).

[quote bellinisurge]@JacquelineCarlyle www.bbc.co.uk/contact/comments-feedback[/quote]
Thanks for the link. Compliment sent.

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@Gmom

I imagine people are complaining to BBC that the article further stigmatises trans people who are an oppressed group of people who are sometimes subject to violence and/or driven to suicide due to bullying or lack of acceptance or poor healthcare etc. While this may be true and very sad, it shouldn't mean that radical trans ideology is above criticism.

The only 'trans people' this article stigmatises are the rapists and potential rapists who identify as lesbians and think that actual lesbians owe them sex. These people clearly exist, and even Stonewall admitted they exist since they said in their statement that lesbians were 'prejudiced' for not wanting to have sex with them.

Do you believe that these males are not really trans or do you agree with Stonewall that a lesbian is prejudiced if she won't have sex with someone with a penis?

the article is shockingly poorly researched, based on a biased online poll of 80 women. Sheesh, give me a break

I love this. We did some research based on 80 women.

Omg! You did some research... based on 80 women!!!

Compliment sent

Sent off the feedback to thank them for the story as well.

The knots that those complaining about the story are tying themselves in - 'Well it doesn't happen but if anyone did say no they would be horrible bigots.'

How quickly we moved from a #MeToo idea of women being believed when they report abuse to women being publicly denounced and shamed for the same

Apologies if this has already been posted but I saw this on twitter today in response to Ash's tweet - it debunks the suicide stats

thecritic.co.uk/neither-marginalised-abused-nor-vulnerable/

@BoreOfWhabylon

I'm pretty sure Idris Elba would refuse to have sex with me (a fat ageing heterosexual white woman)

Clearly racist.

Yeah, he won't have sex with me either. It's clearly a pattern of behavior with him. He needs to do some thinking.

Skimming thread, I can't see it, Ann Sinnott reports that the journalist who wrote the price has had to close down her twitter as a result.

Yes thanks @bellinisurge . Positive Feedback sent! No Debate is over.

"There have been 500 or so complaints to the BBC about the Caroline Lowbridge's Cotton Ceiling story - and she has had to close her Twitter account because of the onslaught. Let the BBC know your views with this simple form - you can elect for anonymity."

twitter.com/annmsinnott/status/1453061251991494660?s=21

[quote dapsnotplimsolls]Apologies if this has already been posted but I saw this on twitter today in response to Ash's tweet - it debunks the suicide stats

thecritic.co.uk/neither-marginalised-abused-nor-vulnerable/[/quote]
Thank you. Sending this to my MP.