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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Rosie Duffield on with Glinner

198 replies

Mollyollydolly · 29/09/2021 18:46

That's it really.

For a woman in her position to go on Glinner's channel .. that's bravery ... that's ovaries of steel.

My admiration for her grows daily.

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PatsArrow · 02/10/2021 12:00

The Gender Critical Subreddit was banned/taken down by Aimee Chanellor (son of convicted pedophile and torturer of a 10 year old girl) and his Pedophile husband.

Not exactly a great gotcha there.

OldCrone · 02/10/2021 12:07

@MargaritaPie

Or to put it another way if helps clarify my view, it's easy to think you're "on the good side" when you stay in a little echo chamber where everyone has the same view and agrees with you.
So true. Here's a thread to help you to understand the arguments you don't see in your echo chamber.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

DickKerrLadies · 02/10/2021 12:08

@PatsArrow

The Gender Critical Subreddit was banned/taken down by Aimee Chanellor (son of convicted pedophile and torturer of a 10 year old girl) and his Pedophile husband. Not exactly a great gotcha there.
I do find it quite odd that Margarita seems so keen on talking about 'sides' considering what the 'side' that Margarita aligns with have done.
Eyesofdisarray · 02/10/2021 12:17

Margarita referring to "echo chambers" 🤣 !!!!
Women still won't wheesht Margarita - is that what's so annoying????

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 02/10/2021 12:18

I do find it quite odd that Margarita seems so keen on talking about 'sides' considering what the 'side' that Margarita aligns with have done

No

I don’t want to be on a side but the people who have forced me on to one are posters like margarita

MargaritaPie · 02/10/2021 12:20

@yourhairiswinterfire

(oh wait that got banned for hate, so scratch that)

Ha, you do love taking Twitter bans and Reddit bans as proof that someone or something is awful.

Paedophiles are open about being paedophiles on Twitter. They're not banned. People brag about fucking animals on Twitter. They're not banned. Men threaten to rape and murder women to their heart's content on Twitter. They're not banned. The Gender Critical subreddit was spammed with child sex abuse images by those on the 'right side of history' to get it closed down, according to the former mods who had to desperately work to stop that depraved shit from flooding the sub.

And yet, it's the people that believe in reality and know who isn't a woman that get shut down.

God knows why anyone in their right mind would take Reddit and Twitter as decent judges of what's right and wrong 🤮

If you're aware of that stuff happening on Reddit then please do report it to Reddit as well as law enforcement if it suggests illegal activity has or is taking place.

I personally haven't seen any of that on Reddit, maybe we are subscribed to different subs.

AlfonsoTheDinosaur · 02/10/2021 12:21

I find it more productive to ignore Margarita's nonsensical posts than to engage with their silliness.

yourhairiswinterfire · 02/10/2021 12:31

I personally haven't seen any of that on Reddit, maybe we are subscribed to different subs.

It's not on subs I'm on (I'm not on the misogynistic hell hole that hosts revenge porn and refers to women as 'holes', ta). Nasty little dig there though, I see exactly what you're trying to do and trust me, it's not me or us you're making look bad here...

Rest assured, the mods reported the depraved scum that did it.

And the reason you don't see it is glaringly obvious...you're not a ''wrong thinker'' and therefore the ''good guys'' aren't going to use porn (as they did to the children on JKR's drawing competition thread for children) and child sex abuse images as a weapon against you.

Phobiaphobic · 02/10/2021 12:44

@Mollyollydolly

I really liked when she thanked Glinner for raising awareness. You could see how much it meant to him and he deserves it. She's a classy woman Rosie.
He does deserve it. He's given up his whole life to stick up for women.
MargaritaPie · 02/10/2021 13:02

@yourhairiswinterfire

I personally haven't seen any of that on Reddit, maybe we are subscribed to different subs.

It's not on subs I'm on (I'm not on the misogynistic hell hole that hosts revenge porn and refers to women as 'holes', ta). Nasty little dig there though, I see exactly what you're trying to do and trust me, it's not me or us you're making look bad here...

Rest assured, the mods reported the depraved scum that did it.

And the reason you don't see it is glaringly obvious...you're not a ''wrong thinker'' and therefore the ''good guys'' aren't going to use porn (as they did to the children on JKR's drawing competition thread for children) and child sex abuse images as a weapon against you.

I don't know what sub you're referring to. As I said things like revenge porn would be covered by Reddit rules as well as the law too, so by all means make a report if you are aware of any of this happening.

I wasn't really following what allegedly happened on JKR's Twitter, I did read and enjoy the Harry Potter books but I have no interest in what she does now.

OldCrone · 02/10/2021 13:15

I wasn't really following what allegedly happened on JKR's Twitter, I did read and enjoy the Harry Potter books but I have no interest in what she does now.

Perhaps you should step away from your echo chamber a bit more often and see what people on 'your side' (as you like to put it) are doing.

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1416680018416181248

Or perhaps you think tweeting porn on a thread for children to post artwork is just fine.

JustSpeculation · 02/10/2021 13:26

I wasn't really following what allegedly happened on JKR's Twitter, I did read and enjoy the Harry Potter books but I have no interest in what she does now.

Ah, you're missing something. The Strike books are excellent!

donquixotedelamancha · 02/10/2021 13:27

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Waitwhat23 · 02/10/2021 13:28

Under Reddit's 'free speech' rules, many subreddits with horrendous content exist - details under 'Active SubReddits' -

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communities

But women talking about biological reality - not allowed.

Oh and is this the new TRA stance regarding the horrific abuse meted out to JKR? That it 'allegedly' happened? The rewriting of history is craven cowardice.

MargaritaPie · 02/10/2021 14:21

"we should all ignore him"

I am a woman. From birth just to add (since that distinction is obviously important on here).

MargaritaPie · 02/10/2021 14:23

As I said can't comment on JKR, I have no interest in following what she does now and haven't seen anything.

RedDogsBeg · 02/10/2021 14:58

@MargaritaPie

As I said can't comment on JKR, I have no interest in following what she does now and haven't seen anything.
Ah the three wise monkey defence, what a surprise.
RedDogsBeg · 02/10/2021 15:01

One hesitates to ask but why have you no interest in following what JKR does now?

Is is because

a) She's Scottish
b) She's Scottish and a woman
c) You've been told she's a hideous t**f and you believe that unconditionally because you never seek out any alternate view or evidence

Or all three?

donquixotedelamancha · 02/10/2021 15:14

I am a woman. From birth just to add

@MargaritaPie Sorry for mis-sexing you. I get mis-sexed quite often and it doesn't really bother me but I respect your view that being accurate about sex is really important.

Gumbomambo · 02/10/2021 16:53

If you are an AFAB you should sue.
This is a thread about Rosie Duffield. She’s a very brave, smart lady.

GrandmaMazur · 02/10/2021 17:17

I thought Rosie was excellent - such a natural open discussion and she spoke with compassion and understanding. Why are people so scared to have these sort of conversations in the public sphere?

yourhairiswinterfire · 02/10/2021 17:28

Why are people so scared to have these sort of conversations in the public sphere?

It smashes the narrative of the 'big, bad, violent, transphobic terf' into thousands of tiny pieces.

People will listen expecting to be horrified by the bigotry they've heard all about, and end up going Huh? That's it?! That's what they're calling transphobia? That's what they're calling hate-mongering? That's what they're calling literal, actual violence?!

Calm, rational women more than capable of explaining and defending their points. It's amazing sunlight, therefore they hate it.

Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 03/10/2021 15:32

I am a woman. From birth just to add (since that distinction is obviously important on here).

The problem with that statement, made by a devoted believer in trans ideology, is that the words they use often don't mean what we take them to mean. They take great delight in "queering language" by using words to mean the exact opposite of their true meaning.

We've all watched in dismay as the meaning of some very basic, ordinary words have been "changed", until the dictionary definition of the word woman is considered unspeakably transphobic, and we are supposed to accept that the concept of "woman" now includes "anyone who identifies as a woman". To the point where using the word woman to speak about women's sexual health issues is considered exclusionary, and best replaced by phrases like "bodies with vaginas".

I have personally seen people (who quite obviously have XY chromosomes in every cell in their bodies) claiming that they are "c*s women", genuine females, who were born female.

When pressed for further clarification some will go on to explain, with complete seriousness, that they had the misfortune to be born with a "birth defect", which needed to be treated with hormones and surgeries, but that they have not "changed their sex" (as if that were possible) because they were female all along.

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