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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Ed Davy on R4 Today - there should not be safe places for women

265 replies

42SrauvP · 17/09/2021 08:03

Quite jarring to hear him say it out loud but yes, this white man has stated love on the radio that there should be no spaces where biological males can’t go.
Just before 8am.

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user1495884211 · 17/09/2021 11:07

"yeh, because I think some of the arguments that are put against this just don't understand the facts and experience. You know, transpeople women are some of the most discriminated against in our society. They suffer violence. They suffer harassment."

There, corrected it for you, Ed.

Congressdingo · 17/09/2021 11:08

@TheRebelle

Oh, are the Lib Dem’s still going?
Not any more.
littlbrowndog · 17/09/2021 11:11

Ed davey🤦‍♀️

Ed Davy on R4 Today - there should not be safe places for women
Blackandwhitehorse · 17/09/2021 11:21

Gutted as I’ll have to tactically vote in the next GE or just not vote.

Threewheeler1 · 17/09/2021 11:24

I really, really resent Ed telling me that I 'don't understand' with regard to anything.
It all seems so familiar. Man tells women to 'pipe down because you're clearly hard of thinking'.
This current Ed stuff feels like he is indulging in some political willy-waving.
Agree that LD's are fucked and they deserve it. Locally, nationally, it's just too hard, annoying and pointless to work out what they are for. So easy to forget they exist until they pop up again with some woman-sidelining/hating crap.

BahHumbygge · 17/09/2021 11:24

Penis = Access All Areas pass

That’s what this is all about

OvaHere · 17/09/2021 11:35

Funny how this understanding thing only seems to go one way.

So apparently women don't understand the lives and experiences of those identifying as TW but presumably Mr Davey thinks that TW have unique lady brain insight into being female.

SorryAuntLydia · 17/09/2021 11:37

@MrsOvertonsWindow

Gosh - letting that sink in - no places where someone like Ed Davey can't go if he states he's a woman:

A changing room of teenage girls changing for swimming
A girl's dormitory in a boarding school
The women's showers in a workplace
Any hospital room where a woman is undressed and being examined
The girls toilets in a school
Every women's refuge and rape crisis centre.
A woman being strip searched in a prison

And the rest.....
There's a name for men like this.

No it’s worse. The question - asked and answered twice was about biological men and Ed think that there should be no places where biological men can't go full stop

So basically Ed thinks women and girls shouldn’t ever be allowed single sex spaces.

Just wow.

Artichokeleaves · 17/09/2021 11:46

Non penis havers should be supervised at all times by penis havers. There must be no time they are ever out of penis havers' control and presence.

Wouldn't he be happier somewhere like Kabul?

Threewheeler1 · 17/09/2021 11:58

Well, I suppose it's about time biological men had some freedom after years of having their movements so restricted by the irrational feelings and unimportant experiences of women. I mean, what possible harm can it do?
It's that question of potential harm that baffles me. How can he be so wilfully ignorant? Might as well get some nice paper and write those abusers an invite.

Feelingoktoday · 17/09/2021 12:00

Male power. They just don’t care or like girls and women. We really need a new party otherwise I’m going to have to vote for Boris.

Kdubs1981 · 17/09/2021 12:03

I confess I did shout "fuck off!" At the radio

catzwhiskas · 17/09/2021 12:05

Can’t see any party worth voting for right now because of the misogyny we are seeing. As along time labour voter, I did actually vote Lib Dem on the back of opposing Brexit as at least they were clear. Now their clarity will lose them women’s votes. So be it. Deeply shocked but not surprised by this man’s assertion, similar to that of my labour MP. And the contrast between that piece and the report on violence to women....

WarriorN · 17/09/2021 12:11

Has anyone asked him his thoughts on transmen in male prisons and what the safeguarding issues may be there?

It's always about the transwomen....

FloralBunting · 17/09/2021 12:17

I welcome his candour. He has demonstrated that like many men in powerful positions, he can get away with openly shitting on women and face no consequences at all.

Trump had to be covertly recorded being misogynist before anyone complained, and he rode it out. We've now progressed to UK political party leaders being misogynists on national radio and being applauded for it by liberals.

Fuck you, Davey. And everyone who supports you and your views.

R0wantrees · 17/09/2021 12:19

No it’s worse. The question - asked and answered twice was about biological men and Ed think that there should be no places where biological men can't go full stop

So basically Ed thinks women and girls shouldn’t ever be allowed single sex spaces.

The consequences are far wider. Denial of single sex spaces for girls and women also means the denial of single sex services and any sex-based Safeguarding.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 17/09/2021 12:20

At least he's answered the Staniland question -that male sexed people must be allowed to undress and shower in a changing room with undressing teenage girls if they want to.

Always good to let the electorate know where a politician stands on matters relating to safeguarding of children.

NapoleonOzmolysis · 17/09/2021 12:23

Lifetime LD voter here. On our corruption tory-led council our local LD councillors have always been brilliant - one went for MP last GE and I so, so wanted to vote for him but I couldn't, because of shite like this. Last local election I couldn't vote for the LD either and they were the only people who door knocked and I had to tell them why and they did not get it.

tanstaafl · 17/09/2021 12:28

in answering the question about biological males Ed replies with ‘trans’. He implicitly accepts TW are male.
What’s shocked me is Ed then says there should be no places TW can’t go.

Think, in Ed’s world , he could congratulate Emma himself, in person , in the showers of the female changing rooms , just so long as he IDs as a TW.

And as for a public debate, he means a debate where you agree with me.

The man is a disgrace. I’d be embarrassed to be a LD member today.

Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 17/09/2021 12:31

I think they have no idea how angry women are about this.

Artichokeleaves · 17/09/2021 12:32

@Xoxoxoxoxoxox

I think they have no idea how angry women are about this.
The entitlement is mindboggling, that they believe they can treat women like this and expect women to want to vote for it.
Feelingoktoday · 17/09/2021 12:36

Yes they think we will forget and still vote for them.

GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 17/09/2021 13:03

Is there a transcript of exactly what he said? My MP is Lib Dem and I'd like to ask her for her response to this.

nauticant · 17/09/2021 13:12

The exchange in the form of a transcript is present upthread both as free text and as a twitter screenshot (which I posted) GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal.

Alternatively, here it is as a short audio clip on twitter:

twitter.com/Rootsy62654547/status/1438793246449315851

GrimDamnFanjo · 17/09/2021 13:14

I've said on many threads before - I was an active member, I've volunteered on a local and national level but I've left now because the dodgy way they've treated women over the years has now come to this.

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