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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Gay man 'bullied' off Manchester Pride for wearing LGB Alliance hat and t-shirt

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/08/2021 08:21

LibDem activist delighted by this. Here are two of her tweets. The gay man who turned up in an LGB hat and t-shirt was allegedly advised by police to leave for his own safety and seems to have had the hat stolen.

Another young fool tweeted that 'bullying the guy in the LGB Alliance shirt who came to the protest march is my favourit part of Pride so far xx'. He has since deleted this (possibly because he is now sober and/or has seen how many people had reported this to his employers) and now claims he was just chanting 'Trans lives matter!'. 'Bullying' is an odd choice of words for this. How could anyone think admitting publicly to 'bullying' was a good look?

The LGB Alliance man has been advised that people shouting at him is actually assault if he wants to take it further. Doesn't sound like he does, though.

Unedifying, to say the least.

Gay man 'bullied' off Manchester Pride for wearing LGB Alliance hat and t-shirt
Gay man 'bullied' off Manchester Pride for wearing LGB Alliance hat and t-shirt
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FloralBunting · 29/08/2021 19:12

@Quaggersx

No big deal. The other one would be more of the opinion that the silly gay man should have thought twice about what he was wearing if he didn't want to be shunned. You seem to have the sensible, non-twat opinion, so that's cool

Ooh that doesn't sound nice. I'm definitely not that one.

I'd got that from the very different perspective. I did a double take when I saw the name and a sensible post to go with it and wondered if I'd slipped into an alternate universe Grin
Helleofabore · 29/08/2021 19:12

The chilling effect that a single person who wears a t-shirt and hat bearing the logo of a group that has trans supporters, but doesn’t centre their needs, is abused and targeted this way shows the degree of entitlement that group has. That they cannot see that they could have simply leave him be, even if he was yelling that gay men are same sex attracted to the crowd. They were a large group and a single person could easily be ignored. They chose not to.

A single person! Could you imagine if this happened to an individual trans rights protestor at a feminist event??

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/08/2021 19:15

@NoNotMeNoSiree

So anything that doesn't have a T on it is anti T is it?

Oh, come on.
Really?!
Of course it isn't.
Of course someone who is a lesbian can wear a tshirt celebrating being a lesbian.
Of course someone who is gay can wear a tshirt celebrating being gay.
You seriously can't see the difference between your examples and wearing an LGB tshirt which is trans exclusionary at an L G B T event?
(Highlighted T just because people keep conviently pretending it's not there.)
You really can't?
OK then.

Would it have been all right to go to Pride wearing a t-shirt from Mermaids or GIRES? They don't work for LGB people. You do know that before 2015 Stonewall didn't work for trans equality - its focus was LGB rights. Was that transphobic?

www.stonewall.org.uk/key-dates-lesbian-gay-bi-and-trans-equality

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NoNotMeNoSiree · 29/08/2021 19:15

It's a Red Dwarf quote, nothing to do with gaming.
You having a family history to a word Rimmer made up to describe aliens though I find cool though

Quaggersx · 29/08/2021 19:15

I'd got that from the very different perspective. I did a double take when I saw the name and a sensible post to go with it and wondered if I'd slipped into an alternate universe

Grin Gosh, I feel compelled to go and name search that person now. See what sort of things they say. 😲😂

Quaggersx · 29/08/2021 19:17

It's a Red Dwarf quote, nothing to do with gaming.
You having a family history to a word Rimmer made up to describe aliens though I find cool though

Ahh ok. Sounds like this would be the perfect name for you then as well. But I got it first ☺️

Sophoclesthefox · 29/08/2021 19:18

I definitely prefer the rational version too, very refreshing. Lol (sic).

Anyway, I guess we are destined to wait in vain for the explanation of why LGBA are a hate group, and will wait still longer for an explanation of why a howling mob and theft are an appropriate reaction to a t shirt indicating support for same sex attraction.

AustralianDad7 · 29/08/2021 19:18

@Quaggersx

Transgender not necessarily gay and gay men not always effeminate.

Sorry, what's the point you are trying to make?

UCSF should be more supportive. (quote from their page) >>> The word ‘pride’ is an integral cultural concept within the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Intersex (LGBTQI) community, representing solidarity, collectivity, and identity as well as resistance to discrimination and violence. Its associated symbolism (e.g., rainbow colors) communicates to individuals that LGBTQI members are welcome as valuable members of the community.
Quaggersx · 29/08/2021 19:22

They should be more supportive to? LGB?

Quaggersx · 29/08/2021 19:23

I definitely prefer the rational version too, very refreshing

♥️

BigNothing · 29/08/2021 19:23

I thought the original Quaagars was on this thread under a different name... Just to confuse things!

Quaggersx · 29/08/2021 19:24

Oh really? I didn't realise. Now that is confusing.

Sophoclesthefox · 29/08/2021 19:26

I think it must be the day for posters who’ve changed names to give themselves away, that’s the second today.

As if people couldn’t work it out anyway when posters have such distinctive styles and particular hobby horses 😂

Quaggersx · 29/08/2021 19:28

Gosh, so my namesake has changed names, and I've accidentally taken a name similar to their old one? Now I can see how that could get confusing.

RedDogsBeg · 29/08/2021 19:32

@Quaggersx

Gosh, so my namesake has changed names, and I've accidentally taken a name similar to their old one? Now I can see how that could get confusing.
It is a bit confusing as it's not what we normally hear from the poster with a name similar to yours. I haven't seen them around for a while so assume they've either left MN or name changed.
AustralianDad7 · 29/08/2021 19:34

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

So are all the single issue trans orgs divisive too because they don't include the LGB?

This is the question that's never answered.

The RSPCA should have an opinion on this because sausage dogs are the meat in the sandwich here when it comes to gay rights.
DialSquare · 29/08/2021 19:35

The other poster is Quaggars. They do seem to name change quite regularly. The LOLs usually give it away.

BigNothing · 29/08/2021 19:35

I assume they're continuing to post in their usual style... anyone's ears burning? Grin

Anyway, sorry to go off topic...

Quaggersx · 29/08/2021 19:35

Oh hopefully they've left Mumsnet. It would be very awkward I'd accidentally caused confusion.

Aparallaxia · 29/08/2021 19:36

@HDDD

Are T shirts literal violence?
Only if they have something written on them.😊
Sophoclesthefox · 29/08/2021 19:37

The RSPCA should have an opinion on this because sausage dogs are the meat in the sandwich here when it comes to gay rights.

What on earth are you on about? Confused you seem to be on an entirely different thread than the rest of us. Or a different substance.

FloralBunting · 29/08/2021 19:37

Ah, the good old days of sealioning so blatant we might as well as a poster to balance a beachball on their nose.

Ah, nevermind, nowt's changed.

Helleofabore · 29/08/2021 19:37

Oh my!!! I am enjoying the turn this thread has taken. I am ‘lol’ing uncontrollably now.

AustralianDad7 · 29/08/2021 19:38

@Quaggersx

They should be more supportive to? LGB?
support all resistance to discrimination and violence...
Quaggersx · 29/08/2021 19:39

@BigNothing

I assume they're continuing to post in their usual style... anyone's ears burning? Grin

Anyway, sorry to go off topic...

Goodness. Well if the other Quaggers is here, please do let me know. I'll just assume they've left MN if I don't hear anything. Other Qauggars? Are you out there?