Dh peaked last night…

[WhatsAppening]

And by ‘peaked’ I mean my usually mild mannered don’t rock the boat just be kind oh mums going on about that trans stuff again ABSOLUTELY LOST HIS SHIT at 17yo DD telling him ‘super straight’ is transphobic as fuck.

I’ve never heard him swear as much as he did at DD telling him ladycock is a thing. He’s not remotely homophobic but being told he should theoretically accept ladycock into his sex life was a tipping point.

He gets it now.

When I lose my shit it is usually when I have stepped in dog shit that blended in with the wooden floors, it is not pretty admittedly and I usually blow a blood vessel or two. Anger is a perfectly normal human reaction, as long as he was not violent or threatening then so what?! He is allowed a view, and he is allowed in a free country to express that view however he sees fit within reason.

@littlbrowndog

My favourite tweet from yesterday. Looking at my tummy button now ….

The tweet username says "@thenursemattie" surely they can't have taken biology and passed!

@stepupandbecounted

Parents do sometimes lose their shit, even the mostly saintly ones. It. happens. All. The Time.

We have to also acknowledge said 'child' is 17 and virtually an adult, and does not sound like a wallflower.

I do not agree with swearing or shouting period, but come on, everyone does from time to time. It is okay to be honest about the limits of human patience and endurance.

Yes, I'm not denying it happens, but it's not an event where congratulations are in order, as the OP seems to think.

Men are allowed to have sexual boundaries, too, ffs.

I think op may have been referring to the seen the light element and perhaps not the words used, that was my interpretation anyway.

I know from my own experience, particularly when something means a lot to me, and someone close to me doesn't really get it it is annoying and creates distance and disparity, now dh finally gets it, op can be relieved that he understands her better/her feelings and they are now in close agreement about a subject that is meaningful to her. She is celebrating that element in my view.

And men are definitely allowed to have sexual boundaries, and be able to vocalise those boundaries if they want to.

@Jaysmith71

Sounds a bit Peter Pan to me:

Tinkerbelle will die unless you all say aloud that you believe in her. ...Them. ...Whatever.

Comment of the day!

I think op may have been referring to the seen the light element and perhaps not the words used, that was my interpretation anyway

Same

@SquirryTheSquirrel oh go and derail somewhere else FFS. The OP’s daughter hardly sounds like a delicate flower who was terrified. Sounds like she gave as good as she got. And while being extremely disrespectful to boot.

@PrincessNutella

Men are allowed to have sexual boundaries, too, ffs.

What? Of course they are - that’s the whole point of the thread!

Everyone is entitled to their own sexual preferences and can say no based on anything. And they’re no transphobic as a result!

@3peassuit

When did bisexuality get to be considered transphobic? I don’t get any of this made up identity malarkey.

If by saying you are bisexual you are setting out to say that you are attracted to people of two sexes, that's transphobic because you are saying there are two sexes and it's assumed you are only interested in ciswomen and cis men. Though I see no reason at all why someone can't be attracted to a transperson and not be bisexual. I mean of course they could.

However, it is still ok to use bisexual if you are a woman attracted to men and amab enbies. (Ie, men and men wearing eye-liner.) Or a man attracted to women and afab enbies. (Ie, women and women with short hair and wearing baggy t-shirts.)

Everyone is entitled to their own sexual preferences and can say no based on anything. And they’re no transphobic as a result!

If only that were true.

They were the good old days when you can actually choose what kind of person you want to sleep with, and not be labelled as anything sinister for doing so. We are in the enlightened age of being silenced now. We have to accept everything or else..

Am I the only one who doesn't know what ladycock is/means/relates to?

And no, I'm not going to google it, I learned that lesson with dragon butter thank you.

all Purplewithred

It’s a boy in a dress who is a lesbian dating OPs daughter.

I learned that lesson with dragon butter thank you You win the post of the week from me!!!

Purplewithred: very few transwomen have gender reassignment surgery. Therefore, most, probably nearly all, still have their male genitalia. Some transwomen, and many trans activists, take the view that because "transwomen are women" and that a surgical transition is irrelevant to someone become a transwoman, then an unmodified transwoman's body is a woman's body, and the genitalia of that body is a woman's genitalia. In other words, there might be a penis but it's a penis on a woman's body, ie a ladycock.

Just for the sake of clarity, although I'm explaining, this is not a position I go along with.

However, it is still ok to use bisexual if you are a woman attracted to men and amab enbies. (Ie, men and men wearing eye-liner.) Or a man attracted to women and afab enbies. (Ie, women and women with short hair and wearing baggy t-shirts.)

Not sure where to even start with this gem!

So if I went and had a haircut and put one of my many baggy t-shirts on my BF would be bi-sexual. What happens when I put a blouse on? Is he straight again?

Regressive bullshit!

@BatmansBat

. *@GreenFingersWouldBeHandy* If someone born a male suddenly realises /decides that they are female, they are a woman. And their dick is a ladydick / ladycock. And obviously lesbians (and now increasingly straight men) need to change their sexual preferences to include ladycock.

It appears that many straight men are…more vocal..in their protests. Like the OPs partner…

No one needs to change their sexual preferences to suit anyone. A persons sexuallity is entirely their own business.

That finally became the prevailing view a few decades back Crystalvas and then for some reason, from maybe a decade ago, there's been a strong push by trans activists to overturn this. We are living in strange times.

Seriously, a heated discussion with a teen about something quite important which gets a bit sweary is not the child abuse some believe it is

However letting our kids enter relationships thinking that they are not permitted a genital preference is on the way to it and is jolly big problem indeed.

@SquirryTheSquirrel

The pearl clutching over a shouting match.

There's a difference between a shouting match and someone who ABSOLUTELY LOST HIS SHIT .

Anyone who has had experience of the latter will know how terrifying it is.

TBF though OPs husband may rarely, if ever swear or raise his voice.

Therefore when the volume goes up a few decibels and he exclaims "What a load of shit" it stands out.

It really isn't abuse.

Sorry forgot to say - that could be what LOOSING HIS SHIT looks like in OPs house

Aaaaand I can't spell

Two of my comments have been deleted answering the question about what lady dick is. I’ve asked mumsnet hq why this is.

I said nothing abusive.

This is ridiculous

I’m sorry I can’t tag any of the posts , but , dear god ! Do ever think we’ve woken up on the wrong side of the looking glass ? A person with a penis saying I’m a woman and if you don’t happily have sex with me your all sorts of wrong . I can’t see this ending well for people born without penises or those who … you know what I’m lost … I wish you a path out of this mess 💐💐💐