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Gay men being subject to abuse for their sexuality

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secular111 · 07/08/2021 19:48

Or Homophobia as we know it.

The belief that the trans-activists would stop by just attacking lesbians turns out to have been a miscalculation; gay men are a target now, and the community is only just starting to wake-up to the threat it is facing.

Woke Homophobia

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Artichokeleaves · 08/08/2021 10:18

It's going to have to go to court on a couple of cases to reinforce the law as it actually stands. The other eight protected characteristics are covered under law, this is about getting away with a hell of a lot on the grounds of most people being generally tolerant, resilient, and too busy to be litigious.

Unfortunately there are those in the world who will always push until a boundary is put down that they cannot get past. And there will be those who, like misogynists, enjoy a bit of virtuous cover to let their real feelings out in a way they are ordinarily not socially tolerated in doing. The law is eventually going to have to make it very clear that there are nine protected characteristics and not just one, and law is made democratically in parliament. Not by corporate messaging.

Tibtom · 08/08/2021 10:18

Is 'hate' another one of those words you are trying to change the meaning off? Like homosexual, gay, lesbian, women, literal, violence, homophobia, men, vagina...

FloralBunting · 08/08/2021 10:20

So cute how homophobia has found a new home. For a while there it really did look like it was on the wane, but here it is again, roaring back to life with a fancy new flag and lanyard.

Datun · 08/08/2021 10:21

That's nonsense that only shows how little you know about trans people. Most trans lesbians end up witch each other.

Are transwomen still allowed to put 'no trans' on their OLD profiles? Or is it now considered transphobic?

BluebirdsSong · 08/08/2021 10:21

@Tibtom

Is 'hate' another one of those words you are trying to change the meaning off? Like homosexual, gay, lesbian, women, literal, violence, homophobia, men, vagina...
Are you trying to tell me you folks don't hate trans people? Lmao, that's a laugh.
BluebirdsSong · 08/08/2021 10:23

@Datun

That's nonsense that only shows how little you know about trans people. Most trans lesbians end up witch each other.

Are transwomen still allowed to put 'no trans' on their OLD profiles? Or is it now considered transphobic?

You're free to do so, and trans people are free to criticize it as transphobic.
FloralBunting · 08/08/2021 10:24

The topic of the thread is gay men and lesbians facing homophobia. I suggest that despite the tremendously erudite contributions wanting us to focus on something else, the thread stays on topic. It seems the best way to prove the point.

Datun · 08/08/2021 10:24

You're free to do so, and trans people are free to criticize it as transphobic.

Transpeople criticising themselves as transphobic. Got it.

BluebirdsSong · 08/08/2021 10:27

@Datun

You're free to do so, and trans people are free to criticize it as transphobic.

Transpeople criticising themselves as transphobic. Got it.

Ah, missed the part where you're asking about trans people doing that. Well guess, the vast majority of trans people would not put "no trans" on their dating profiles, so that's a pointless rhetorical exercise.
BriocheForBreakfast · 08/08/2021 10:27

@Iootraw1

It needs this to happen I’m sad to say. My gay son Won’t have any of it and just thinks I’m transphobic and therefore must be slightly homophobic too because he sees LGBTQ as one big family. He’s only young still and I’ve been nothing but supportive of him since coming out as gay, but trans ideology I do not do. And yet I do support trans in the sense that they are suffering from dysphoria and many are being manipulated into medication and surgery by activists. But lesbians don’t get listened too, feminists neither,
I agree. Maybe more people will take notice now that it's not just lesbians who are being targeted. I hope it helps open some more eyes to the homophobia that is rampant in this ideology.
Datun · 08/08/2021 10:27

@secular111

Or Homophobia as we know it.

The belief that the trans-activists would stop by just attacking lesbians turns out to have been a miscalculation; gay men are a target now, and the community is only just starting to wake-up to the threat it is facing.

Woke Homophobia

It's appalling isn't it? Homophobia not only on that epic scale, but so openly expressed.

And, presumably, stonewall completely agree with the concept.

Clymene · 08/08/2021 10:29

[quote BluebirdsSong]@Tibtom
"Gay (or bisexual) men, not lesbians"

@FloralBunting
"Males are never lesbians. HTH."

Here's a thing: I don't care.

Trans lesbians are trans women attracted to women, which includes other trans women.

Just like how I can't force you to recognize and respect trans people's identities, you can't force me not to.[/quote]
Identities are real. And so are cocks.

FloralBunting · 08/08/2021 10:31

Stonewall completely agree with all this. Which is why LGB people are now rebuilding their advocacy networks after the homophobic cuckoo takeover.

ErrolTheDragon · 08/08/2021 10:32

You're free to do so, and trans people are free to criticize it as transphobic.

So it's 'transphobic' if a transwoman who is exclusively attracted to females expresses their sexual orientation? Confused how odd.

Any person's sexual orientation is what it is, by whatever combination of nature and nurture. Afaik most people's orientation is based on sex, but if some are based on 'gender' that's absolutely fine. A combination of sex and gender may apply.

What isn't fine is if the person doesn't fully accept that also applies to potential partners. A homogenderal person shouldn't try to override a homosexual persons orientation and consent, or vice versa.

Is it really any more complicated than that?

TalkingOutYerArse · 08/08/2021 10:34

@secular111

Or Homophobia as we know it.

The belief that the trans-activists would stop by just attacking lesbians turns out to have been a miscalculation; gay men are a target now, and the community is only just starting to wake-up to the threat it is facing.

Woke Homophobia

Homophobic little bastards. Right side of history my arse.
Jorrris · 08/08/2021 10:34

Here's a thing: I don't care.

You care enough to come to a feminist forum as a teen male and try and practice mansplaining to women though don't you.

Why is that I wonder.

TalkingOutYerArse · 08/08/2021 10:36

@Jorrris

Here's a thing: I don't care.

You care enough to come to a feminist forum as a teen male and try and practice mansplaining to women though don't you.

Why is that I wonder.

Its pathetic isn't it.

Male lesbians. Fuck off.

GNCQ · 08/08/2021 10:36

It's just a lie.

If a transwoman genuinely doesn't care about the genitals of their partner, they'll literally be happy to suck cock from another tw, take it up the behind, whatever, and are happy to do it, I'm happy for them. I'm genuinely happy for them.
It doesn't make them lesbian. Bisexual at least.

I simply don't believe that most TW who describe themselves as lesbian actually want to suck cock themselves. But they expect it of lesbians. It's just gaslighting.

FloralBunting · 08/08/2021 10:36

You really do have to be a special kind of bigot to read all those messages and think they are from marginalized victims rather than disgusting homophobic bullies.

heathspeedwell · 08/08/2021 10:38

There was a Pink News survey a while ago that showed that only a tiny fraction of trans people would consider dating other trans people. Most men weren't up for it either. I think the group most likely to date trans people was bisexual women, probably due to our conditioning to be kind.

FloralBunting · 08/08/2021 10:42

I note on this topic that we often get a 'You can just turn them down' when the issue of opposite sex people propositioning lesbians and gay men, but if you do employ a 'no thank you', the shaming attempts really kick in.

BluebirdsSong · 08/08/2021 10:45

@FloralBunting

I note on this topic that we often get a 'You can just turn them down' when the issue of opposite sex people propositioning lesbians and gay men, but if you do employ a 'no thank you', the shaming attempts really kick in.
Does it? From what I've seen trans people aren't exactly excited to date transphobes. This is actually part of why trans lesbians usually end up with each other; it helps ensure they don't have to put up with transphobic bs.
FloralBunting · 08/08/2021 10:47

I'm sorry, I'm trying to limit my interaction with homophobia, so unless you are going to engage with the thread topic with something other than 'this never happens', I'll have to ignore you.

BluebirdsSong · 08/08/2021 10:50

Do you think trans people are in fact interested in dating transphobic bigots?

Jorrris · 08/08/2021 10:50

Does it? From what I've seen trans people aren't exactly excited to date transphobes. This is actually part of why trans lesbians usually end up with each other; it helps ensure they don't have to put up with transphobic bs

Well it would make sense for a translesbians to have a relationship with a translesbian if they want to be with someone who outwardly presents as female. As lesbians are only attracted to women. So obviously wouldn't be attracted to men or translesbians who are also male.

And there's nothing wrong or transpohobic about sexual preference dear. It's certainly not your decision who other people should be attracted to.