Trans men fight back

[RoyalCorgi]

Prominent trans men take on the autogynephiles.

www.gdalliancecanada.com/post/trans-men-fight-back

Thanks for sharing RoyalCorgi. That is quite a big statement and I will be interested to see what they can achieve. If they can achieve a more nuanced discussion that then improves the lives of other trans people, then that is a good start.

Very interesting thank you. Here's hoping for some sane voices from trans men

That's interesting, transmen's voices are so rarely heard (we all know why) it will be illuminating to see how this is received.

Glad to see this happening and wish them lots of luck.

They are absolutely right about who controls the narrative when it comes to being trans.

@PandorasMailbox

Glad to see this happening and wish them lots of luck.

They are absolutely right about who controls the narrative when it comes to being trans.

But but but what about all that male privilege they identified into?

That was such an interesting website - it explained things really well.

Children are being taught a false narrative in the media and in public schools, which is confusing them… in order to protect the egos, fantasies and capitalist desires of AGP males

This. In letters of fire.

... capitalist?

Oh as in owning the word woman.
Not like owning a lot of bitcoin.

It is a good thing when anyone asks the question, ‘exactly who benefits?’

It is the question that some posters really like to avoid answering.

Like - exactly who benefits from the affirming only treatment being pushed for the disproportionate number of young female transitioners, when those young females are the ones who end up with life limiting and life shortening effects that don’t seem to be even acknowledged by mature male transitioners. And even those posters cannot answer the question about the loss of sexual function for young male transitioners in their attempt to push for puberty blockers. There have been some who dismiss it as ‘asexuals are a thing, you know’….

Yes…. The more trans people that ask ‘who exactly benefits’ with this current narrative the better.

The only thing I disagree with is the statement that AGP is a sexual orientation.

So they're recognised as trans men now they're useful to the GC agenda? I thought they were just confused butch lesbians... ;)

Really good to see transpeople standing up and pointing out the difference between those with gender dysphoria and those for whom it's a sexual kink and naming the group who have been so anxious to bulldoze women's rights in order to destigmatise and legitimise their paraphilia.

I know that this is what Miranda and Debbie have been doing, but never from a female point of view. Thank, you, transmen, for taking this on.

God they're brave.

@dolor

So they're recognised as trans men now they're useful to the GC agenda? I thought they were just confused butch lesbians... ;)

Nice try.

@Thelnebriati

The only thing I disagree with is the statement that AGP is a sexual orientation.

I take this as meaning that it’s heterosexual men who are AGP; they still are sexually attracted to females, but want to be seen as a woman themselves in order to achieve sexual satisfaction. However, I personally believe that AGP is a paraphilia.

That was illuminating. Good luck to them making themselves heard.

@Thelnebriati

The only thing I disagree with is the statement that AGP is a sexual orientation.

I was going to post the exact same comment. It's not a sexual orientation. It's a fetish.

I think we need to stop being gentle and calling it an orientation or paraphilia. Both make it seem less about public displays of fetishism, which is something a light needs to be shone on.

So they're recognised as trans men now they're useful to the GC agenda? I thought they were just confused butch lesbians... ;)

Err… they are transmen. And they have always been, and will forever more be, females. That’s how this works.

Do you always look at things in such an absolutist way? It certainly comes across that way. ‘Useful to the GC agenda?’

You know what would be useful? If posters actually read more than a superficial twitter influencer opinion on actually what ‘GC’ is. Maybe then they’d realise that not only does it show how very uninformed they are to make statements about political leanings and alliances, but they’d realise that there are many trans voices who are very comfortable in acknowledging their sex and acknowledging the needs of females should not be impacted by males who seek to access those rights.

It really shows how ill informed posters are when they try ‘gotchas’ like this.

I thought so.

Glad you agree, dolor.

@dolor

I thought so.

I doubt that.

@dolor

So they're recognised as trans men now they're useful to the GC agenda? I thought they were just confused butch lesbians... ;)

Well they're not heterosexual men with a fetish, that's for sure.

Which is their entire point.

@GNCQ

Oh as in owning the word woman. Not like owning a lot of bitcoin.

I'm guessing it's a reference to all the AGP businesses out there online? The influencers, grifters , groomers, scammers and spoofers. Quite apart from the NGOs and Big Pharma..

@dolor

So they're recognised as trans men now they're useful to the GC agenda? I thought they were just confused butch lesbians... ;)

Trans men. As in not actual men?