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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is this a man or a woman?

364 replies

GreatBigBird · 13/07/2021 23:21

YABU: woman

YANBU: man

www.cp24.com/news/woman-charged-after-allegedly-sexually-assaulting-boy-6-in-toronto-park-1.5507641

I can’t even begin to express myself.

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MotionActivatedDog · 13/07/2021 23:51

They must have got the she/ her/ woman and name Ruby from somewhere???

Presumably because the person told them they are a woman. Not a transwoman.

OneFootintheRave · 13/07/2021 23:52

It's shocking to think this crime will be recorded as having been perpetrated by a woman. We are seeing more and more of such cases though and ultimately, hopefully, I think cases like this will shine a light on the situation and get the message across. About how in certain circumstances, biological sex matters.

MotionActivatedDog · 13/07/2021 23:53

Well it’s either transwoman or man.

In reality, it’s both. They are a man and a transwoman. You can’t be a transwoman without being a man. But I was being tongue in cheek with my “you can’t assume their gender” comment.

chickenyhead · 13/07/2021 23:54

@MotionActivatedDog

They must have got the she/ her/ woman and name Ruby from somewhere???

Presumably because the person told them they are a woman. Not a transwoman.

What is a woman to you?

This person is either a man by sex or a transwoman.

MotionActivatedDog · 13/07/2021 23:55

This person is either a man by sex or a transwoman.

He is both. I was being tongue in cheek. The rule is you can’t assume someone’s gender and as he wasnt referred to as a transwoman then you’re assuming it for him.

GreatBigBird · 13/07/2021 23:57

Women are vagina havers or menstruators, but this is a 'woman' Angry

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chickenyhead · 13/07/2021 23:59

@MotionActivatedDog

This person is either a man by sex or a transwoman.

He is both. I was being tongue in cheek. The rule is you can’t assume someone’s gender and as he wasnt referred to as a transwoman then you’re assuming it for him.

Well he cannot be an actual woman, because that is impossible.
Ohsugarhoneyicetea · 13/07/2021 23:59

Do men even realise how revolting they are making themselves by allowing this affront. Its bad enough that some of them behave like this, but then for the majority to leap around claiming its a woman's crime tarnishes every single one of them.

MotionActivatedDog · 14/07/2021 00:00

Don’t worry about it.

olidora63 · 14/07/2021 00:02

The shoulders look female 🤷‍♀️Confusing world we live in !!

frigglerock · 14/07/2021 00:03

Clearly a man.

So stupid to pretend otherwise! At some point, why even ascribe a gender in the article, if it could be a blatant lie. Just put the person's name, call every "person", and stop using gendered pronouns once and for all. Hmm

JeansShirtJeansJacket · 14/07/2021 00:04

Oh great. So I suppose this rapist will now be sent to a woman's prison?

This Is awful

SusannahMartin · 14/07/2021 00:05

This person will be in a women's prison. And that is a disgrace. The Canadian prison system is a total mess. Helen Joyce provides an in depth analysis of it in her book Trans

Iamfour · 14/07/2021 00:07

@chickenyhead The Toronto Police used she in their news release.

Timeforanewnamemethinks · 14/07/2021 00:07

Pressed the wrong button, yes that is a man.
YANBU

Iamfour · 14/07/2021 00:07

torontopolice.on.ca/newsreleases/50354

Joolsin · 14/07/2021 00:08

The only "good thing" - and I say that ruefully and with deep irony - is that hopefully the woman prisoners will be safe-ish as his targets seem to have been little boys. It's a sick world.

MotionActivatedDog · 14/07/2021 00:08

It amazes me that with all these genders that apparently exist I never see any reports about people who are asexual, non binary, gender fluid, pangender, two spirit. It’s always “woman” that these offenders identify as. Funny that.

GreatBigBird · 14/07/2021 00:09

@olidora63

The shoulders look female 🤷‍♀️Confusing world we live in !!
And his beard? His jawline? His brow line?
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MotionActivatedDog · 14/07/2021 00:09

I mean what prison do you go to in Canada if you don’t identify as a man or a woman? Is there a two spirit prison?

Lalliella · 14/07/2021 00:10

@chickenyhead

Man by sex

Transwoman by gender.

Man by sex.

Man by gender.

As they’re the same thing imo.

MistressOfEvilMaleficent · 14/07/2021 00:10

"there may be other victims"

How terrified are those children that they are unable to come forward 😔

This is horrific it completely skews crime statistics for women, and as a PP said how confused is that child going to be when everyone keeps telling them "a woman attacked you"

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 14/07/2021 00:11

Some publications are not using the word ‘woman’ in articles about birth and women's health, and instead refer to ‘people’ or parts of anatomy, but use ‘woman’ to describe a biologically male perpetrator of sex crime!

Good point, Dozer. That exposes the misogyny behind genderism. The very word ‘woman’ is separated from its positive connotations.

GrandmaSteglitszch · 14/07/2021 00:11

@Dozer

So some publications are not using the word ‘woman’ in articles about birth and women's health, and instead refer to ‘people’ or parts of anatomy, but are use ‘woman’ to describe a biologically male perpetrator of sex crime!
It's sickening.

(This absolutely should stay in aibu, OP.
Why would you want it hidden away?)

CrackOnOrGoHome · 14/07/2021 00:11

These are not our crimes.