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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is this a man or a woman?

364 replies

GreatBigBird · 13/07/2021 23:21

YABU: woman

YANBU: man

www.cp24.com/news/woman-charged-after-allegedly-sexually-assaulting-boy-6-in-toronto-park-1.5507641

I can’t even begin to express myself.

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GreatBigBird · 13/07/2021 23:37

What about the women in the prison that he’s sent to?

What about the crime statistics?

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soolazy · 13/07/2021 23:37

@Iggii

How confusing for the children assaulted to be told it was a woman who did this to them Sad
Exactly. And everyone involved would know the truth but keep telling him, no it was a woman with a penis who raped you It's Kafkaesque.
GreatBigBird · 13/07/2021 23:38

@BSJohnson

I’ve just used the ‘report error’ button to point out the error they seem to have made imho.
Good call!
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GreatBigBird · 13/07/2021 23:39

Nowhere does it say trans.

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WaspSeasonIsIncoming · 13/07/2021 23:40

Crimes should be recorded by sex, if gender must be used then there should be a secondary box documenting this.

BlackeyedSusan · 13/07/2021 23:40

Crimes in the UK are also recorded under the criminal's personal preference for gender identity. If you have an issue with that, I believe there may be a campaign against that but one would need to look at the petitions board on Mumsnet or on the Parliament petitions site.

Parliament's petitions site is good for a look round as there are all sorts of campaigns on there covering many things.

GreatBigBird · 13/07/2021 23:41

At least this report (written by a woman) mentions neither man, nor woman

www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/07/13/toronto-police-lay-charges-after-six-year-old-boy-sexually-assaulted-in-park.html

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toffeebutterpopcorn · 13/07/2021 23:42

So potentially something like this could get thrown out of court if the child insists in their statement (as children will often do) that the sky is
indeed blue, bears poo in the woods, the Pope is catholic, and the ‘bad man’ did xyz.

walkoflifewoohoo · 13/07/2021 23:42

Disgusting.

Skinnytailedsquirrel · 13/07/2021 23:44

I get angrier by the day reading shit like this. How fucking dare they insult women by saying this is a "woman". How fucking dare they. It is not a word that can be misconstrued in any way. A woman is an adult human female. That shitbag is a male.

chickenyhead · 13/07/2021 23:45

There are currently, according to HMPO approximately 1,300 male sexed transwomen in male prisons. I'm sure they'd like to move to one of the 3,400 female spaces.

Maybe if we release the 1,100 women currently behind bars for council tax evasion, we could have 1 male sexed to 2 female sexed inmates in female prisons.

Google Karen White for the risks posed to women.

OnSecondThoughts · 13/07/2021 23:45

2 + 2 = 4. Always. Forever. It doesn't matter how many fingers O'Brien holds up, or what pressure he applies, or what drugs you're on. Men are men. Women are women. End of.

MotionActivatedDog · 13/07/2021 23:45

@chickenyhead

Man by sex

Transwoman by gender.

The article doesn’t mention that they are a transwoman so I’m not sure you can assume that gender ID for them.
DismantledKing · 13/07/2021 23:46

@OnSecondThoughts

2 + 2 = 4. Always. Forever. It doesn't matter how many fingers O'Brien holds up, or what pressure he applies, or what drugs you're on. Men are men. Women are women. End of.
Exactly this.
Iamfour · 13/07/2021 23:48

@OnSecondThoughts - Agreed, interestingly, the Toronto Star didn't go there. Makes you wonder what the reporter was thinking when she wrote the article. It looks deliberate, other reports all use the pronoun she and most call this person a woman.
www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/07/13/toronto-police-lay-charges-after-six-year-old-boy-sexually-assaulted-in-park.html

ForeverFloating · 13/07/2021 23:48

It’s a man.

Can anyone else see the bars move on the voting? They are always empty to me so I can’t see the results?

ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia · 13/07/2021 23:48

Biological man and irrelevant what gender he identifies with. Arguably I would suggest half human half monster hybrid. There are seemingly difficult to track new confusing mutating genders already.

GreatBigBird · 13/07/2021 23:48

That poor little boy. This is so messed up.

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chickenyhead · 13/07/2021 23:48

@MotionActivatedDog

They must have got the she/ her/ woman and name Ruby from somewhere???

Iamfour · 13/07/2021 23:48

@GreatBigBird crosspost!

Enough4me · 13/07/2021 23:49

Clearly male

GreatBigBird · 13/07/2021 23:49

@ForeverFloating

It’s a man.

Can anyone else see the bars move on the voting? They are always empty to me so I can’t see the results?

You have to vote yourself to be able to see the vote results.
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Warmduscher · 13/07/2021 23:50

chickenyhead
Man by sex

Transwoman by gender.

The article doesn’t mention that they are a transwoman so I’m not sure you can assume that gender ID for them.

Well it’s either transwoman or man.

SingToTheSky · 13/07/2021 23:50

@Dozer

So some publications are not using the word ‘woman’ in articles about birth and women's health, and instead refer to ‘people’ or parts of anatomy, but are use ‘woman’ to describe a biologically male perpetrator of sex crime!
Good point. The hypocrisy is batshit
Warmduscher · 13/07/2021 23:51

@Skinnytailedsquirrel

I get angrier by the day reading shit like this. How fucking dare they insult women by saying this is a "woman". How fucking dare they. It is not a word that can be misconstrued in any way. A woman is an adult human female. That shitbag is a male.
In a nutshell.