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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbian women thrown out of German Dyke March

95 replies

OvaHere · 08/07/2021 15:33

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Germany, Cologne, July 3.

Six women were thrown out from #DykeMarchCologne for carrying signs that criticized #SelfID, #CompelledSpeech and one particularly shaped sign that said #LesbiansDontHavePenises.

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thinkingaboutLangCleg · 08/07/2021 15:44

The male supremacist movement is worldwide. I admire the lesbians who stood up for their rights.

ArtemesiaK · 08/07/2021 15:47

I don't understand. Are transwomen wanting to be lesbians now? If they want to get with women, wouldn't that make them straight men? And what lesbian would want to get together with a man? And what straight man would want to get together with a transwoman? I'm very confused. What is it that they actually want?.....

OffYouGoNow · 08/07/2021 16:01

I don't understand. Are transwomen wanting to be lesbians now? If they want to get with women, wouldn't that make them straight men? And what lesbian would want to get together with a man? And what straight man would want to get together with a transwoman? I'm very confused. What is it that they actually want?.....

Welcome to the brave new world. Forcing lesbians into sexual relations with men is now a progressive cause.

NonnyMouse1337 · 08/07/2021 16:04

@ArtemesiaK

I don't understand. Are transwomen wanting to be lesbians now? If they want to get with women, wouldn't that make them straight men? And what lesbian would want to get together with a man? And what straight man would want to get together with a transwoman? I'm very confused. What is it that they actually want?.....
I love these very valid, completely normal questions. Smile
Datun · 08/07/2021 16:25

@ArtemesiaK

I don't understand. Are transwomen wanting to be lesbians now? If they want to get with women, wouldn't that make them straight men? And what lesbian would want to get together with a man? And what straight man would want to get together with a transwoman? I'm very confused. What is it that they actually want?.....
They want to have sex with women, because they are heterosexual. But heterosexual women only have sex with men. So they don't want those women because it doesn't validate the idea that they themselves are a woman.

So the cohort that works is lesbians.

Lesbians are woman so tick the right sex that they want to have sex with. And lesbians only have sex with women, so the self image is preserved.

The problem is that lesbians don't do dick.

But That's something they don't give a shit about, especially as they can now rename those women 'genital fetishists.'

Stonewall support this.

Helleofabore · 08/07/2021 16:26

ArtemesiaK

Maybe looking up the Cotton ceiling would be a great way to start, but be warned it is not 'nice' reading.

Skybluepinkgiraffe · 08/07/2021 16:28

If a transwoman is a lesbian, will she want sex with another transwoman lesbian? Because they are both women, the way I understand it Confused

MarianneUnfaithful · 08/07/2021 16:28

An opportunity for the LGB Alliance to go international.

Bunshaped · 08/07/2021 16:33

That's some great reporting by Mascha Schiff on the twitter thread Star

FloralBunting · 08/07/2021 16:35

Don't be expecting logic from people who think lesbian is just category on pornhub.

And do prepared for this thread to be visited by the charming types with their devastating clap backs like 'you can always say no', 'my LGBTQ+ social group loves trans lesbians, don't know what the problem is' and my personal favourite 'Of course you're allowed to only be attracted to your own sex, but could you just be quiet about it, it's not nice to talk about it when it makes some male people sad.'

That's before we get to the sub-Bernard Manning in a rainbow lanyard of 'Try a lesbian with a dick, you might like it'.

Theunamedcat · 08/07/2021 16:38

@ArtemesiaK

I don't understand. Are transwomen wanting to be lesbians now? If they want to get with women, wouldn't that make them straight men? And what lesbian would want to get together with a man? And what straight man would want to get together with a transwoman? I'm very confused. What is it that they actually want?.....
Sex with a lesbian 🤷‍♀️ they are women who "regect" men so certain men go after them as women and go insane if they don't accept there "female penis"

This is obviously a very small minority and not representative of the trans population

Theunamedcat · 08/07/2021 16:40

@Skybluepinkgiraffe

If a transwoman is a lesbian, will she want sex with another transwoman lesbian? Because they are both women, the way I understand it Confused
Not in my limited experience because they arnt gay therefore don't do dick

I see your confusion but they require validation at all times

DisgustedofManchester · 08/07/2021 16:44

@Skybluepinkgiraffe

If a transwoman is a lesbian, will she want sex with another transwoman lesbian? Because they are both women, the way I understand it Confused
Why not and indeed it does happen. The acceptance of trans lesbians by what appears to be the majority of the lesbian community means it probably happens less these days. Despite claims to the contrary though, no one is forced to have sex with trans lesbians, people just ask that people do not gate keep other people's choices either way.
yourhairiswinterfire · 08/07/2021 16:47

And do prepared for this thread to be visited by the charming types with their devastating clap backs like 'you can always say no', 'my LGBTQ+ social group loves trans lesbians, don't know what the problem is' and my personal favourite 'Of course you're allowed to only be attracted to your own sex, but could you just be quiet about it, it's not nice to talk about it when it makes some male people sad.'

And as if by magic...

MathsFail · 08/07/2021 16:48

Well the very obvious answer would be for trans women to have sex with other trans women wouldn't it? They can be "lesbians" together...

But that won't work cause they don't want penises.

It doesn't matter that lesbians don't. THAT is transphobic Hmm

CardinalLolzy · 08/07/2021 16:49

Floral, what did you win? Grin

Skybluepinkgiraffe · 08/07/2021 16:56

It all sounds completely insane. So, trans-lesbians don't want to have sex with a lesbian with a penis even if it's a lady penis.
But there are lots of lesbians of the 'old' kind ready to have sex with lesbians with a lady penis.
Righto.
I'm not quite sure how i landed here...
Wanders off to the relative sanity of AIBU

yourhairiswinterfire · 08/07/2021 16:57

Despite claims to the contrary though, no one is forced to have sex with trans lesbians

The last discussion we had on this, there were links to the experiences of young lesbians who had been coerced into relationships with 'trans lesbians', because they were terrified of being called transphobes, bigots, and genital fetishists and losing close friends and their community. They believed they had to prove they weren't 't*rfs', because they'd been brainwashed and guilt tripped into believing that 'proper lesbians love dick'.

It understandably fucked up the mental health of these young women, so yes it does happen.

Whatwouldscullydo · 08/07/2021 17:03

Good on those women.

Everyone knows what a lesbian is. No one on porn hub thinks a lesbian has a penis.

Those men who assulted a lesbian couple on a bus for not kissing on demand knew what a lesbian was.

BatmansBat · 08/07/2021 17:05

I really wish that everyone who either
a) has a penis or
b) likes to have sex with a penis haver

could come up with their own word for their sexual orientation.

TheDinosaurMum · 08/07/2021 17:05

I'm not sure why everyone in their Twitter echo chambers thinks us lesbians want a "female penis" or just a penis in general regardless of what it's attached to 🤮 I mean call me crazy everyone knows what a lesbian is, yes?

Helleofabore · 08/07/2021 17:14

@yourhairiswinterfire

And do prepared for this thread to be visited by the charming types with their devastating clap backs like 'you can always say no', 'my LGBTQ+ social group loves trans lesbians, don't know what the problem is' and my personal favourite 'Of course you're allowed to only be attracted to your own sex, but could you just be quiet about it, it's not nice to talk about it when it makes some male people sad.'

And as if by magic...

Grin
Skybluepinkgiraffe · 08/07/2021 17:14

Did you mean 'and or 'or @BatmansBat?
If it's 'or', I have tended to have sex with penis havers (I have never had a penis of my own) and I refer to myself as straight.
DH has a penis and he also refers to himself as straight.
What did you have in mind, or were you referring to penis having women who enjoy sex with non-penis- having women?

Skybluepinkgiraffe · 08/07/2021 17:17

I hope i have the terminology right, sorry, I read the rules but I'm new to this.

FloralBunting · 08/07/2021 17:20

@Skybluepinkgiraffe

Did you mean 'and or 'or *@BatmansBat*? If it's 'or', I have tended to have sex with penis havers (I have never had a penis of my own) and I refer to myself as straight. DH has a penis and he also refers to himself as straight. What did you have in mind, or were you referring to penis having women who enjoy sex with non-penis- having women?
She's refering to the idea among LGBTQ+ people (Not to be confused with LGB people) that women who are lesbians must accept that some males are lesbians too. Us lesbians keep being told that we ate 'gatekeeping' if we insist that there are no male lesbians, and even when the question is asked 'What should we call a woman who is exclusively attracted to ger own sex?' we get silence or huffing, or as was the case the other day, told we're not normal. By people who claim to be 'progressive'.
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