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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunbury's Thirteenth edition - unlucky for some.

255 replies

highame · 10/06/2021 19:04

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving. It seems appropriate to resurrect today

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

Remember there are people out there who would like to silence us by fair means or foul and attacks are increasing.

This is a continuation of Bunbury’s 9th Public Service Announcement but other Bunbury’s are available and I believe Bunbury’s Orchestra is still alive www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4238543-Does-Bunbury-have-an-orchestra

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well-worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging. AS is your friend.
If you feel your hackles rising, give yourself a break. After the Maya case we may find an escalation.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted.. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we always have community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the ‘Break it Down for me’ and ‘It never happens’ threads but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, the following strategy is suggested

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”
Bunbury’s is under attack so be on your guard - there be dragons looking for witches.
If you’re lurking, Bunbury was a fictitious person in the Importance of Being Earnest - whenever our hero wanted to get out of an unwanted social engagement he would claim to have to be visiting his sick relative Bunbury. Hence the rediscovery of hitherto unknown second wave feminist Germaine Bunbury, to indicate to posters that a thread may in fact constitute an unwelcome social occasion they might want to avoid (courtesy of FermatsTheorem)
Finally, TAAT (thread about a thread) will get the thread removed. Let’s see how long this one lasts.

OP posts:
MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/05/2022 19:09

Time for cake! Not sure about marzipan coffee though Confused Grin

IcakethereforeIam · 05/05/2022 23:26

Is...is that marzipan flavoured coffee or coffee flavoured marzipan?

Pinklimey · 06/05/2022 00:55

Marzipan covered coffee cake, maybe?

PrelateChuckles · 11/05/2022 21:28

Just pootling away here so I don't have to ask how someone who proudly proclaims to live in a world with no groups accuses someone of being in a little group Grin I won't go into the worst stuff, this isn't a TAAT, just venting a bit. Nicely.

Bit disappointed with some wide-eyed contributions to another busy thread but I think I've registered my views on there.

Waitwhat23 · 11/05/2022 21:50

There are several posters who make me seriously worried about my child entering the Scottish education system. Institutional capture doesn't even cover it.

PrelateChuckles · 11/05/2022 21:57

There's a bit in Alan Partridge where he tries to convince Lynn to lie to the tax inspectors using the logic that she'd tell the Elephant Man - bearing in mind that he’s depressed and has got respiratory problems - he looked nice in a blouse...

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 11/05/2022 22:52

PrelateChuckles · 11/05/2022 21:57

There's a bit in Alan Partridge where he tries to convince Lynn to lie to the tax inspectors using the logic that she'd tell the Elephant Man - bearing in mind that he’s depressed and has got respiratory problems - he looked nice in a blouse...

I do love a bit of alan partridge

more the earlier stuff

ExMachinaDeus · 12/05/2022 02:05

Popping in to bathe my temples in the cool water of reason in here, as opposed to the twisty -nonlogic elsethread ...

Thelnebriati · 12/05/2022 17:44

I only just noticed the Special Rules post is gone from the top of the board.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 12/05/2022 18:41

Ooo i didnt notice that

wonder when that happened

WandaWomblesaurus · 12/05/2022 22:31

Marzipan flavoured coffee indeed. Even a latte.
Honestly it's heaven.

IcakethereforeIam · 12/05/2022 22:41

Thanks for clarifying, I've been lying awake nights.

I take my coffee black (giggles recalling quote from Airplane).

Igneococcus · 13/05/2022 11:02

I just realized that I haven't seen Arabella Scott for weeks if not months anywhere. has she namechanged?

Talking about cake, I'm baking a mahoosive Kyiv cake today to eat while watching Eurovision tomorrow.

Waitwhat23 · 13/05/2022 18:55

I've been wondering about Arabella for a while. I've missed her voice on threads.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 14/05/2022 16:16

There are so many wonderful articulate women's voices missing. But in lots of ways it's positive as other voices arrive and fill the gap. A bit like in the Times - the wonderful Josephine March disappeared - having educated so many readers in this madness. Yet other voices stepped up and there are fantastic discussions on there - with so many men stepping up and speaking out.

Waitwhat23 · 14/05/2022 16:49

Agree with it being great to see so many new, articulate and passionate posters. Just for me, Arabella was a bit of an inspiration as a knowledgable Scottish feminist when I was new to all this.

Bewaldeth · 14/05/2022 17:32

There was a Jo March watching the Baroness's webinars - I really hoped it was the poster from the Times comments.

I miss reading the comments, even with a share token (thanks to all sharers) I can't see the comments in my phone.

Igneococcus · 14/05/2022 18:17

I saw a Josephine March a few days ago commenting in the Times and it sounded just like her, so I don't think it's an imposter. I've not managed to read much this week here or in the Times so I don't know if she's had more than the one comment that I saw.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 14/05/2022 18:31

That's good to know Igneococcus. I know she posted on here to say she was taking an understandable break but she has a brilliant way with words and I noticed so many people thanking her for explaining things so clearly.
It would be good if she's back.

Waitwhat23 · 14/05/2022 18:47

She was before my time on here but I love her Times comments.

PrelateChuckles · 14/05/2022 21:42

Sometimes on this board there are threads that are ready to just slip down the board with no further responses tbh.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 14/05/2022 21:58

PrelateChuckles · 14/05/2022 21:42

Sometimes on this board there are threads that are ready to just slip down the board with no further responses tbh.

Wise advice

Bewaldeth · 15/05/2022 14:00

Sometimes this bug that cuts off comments when quoting someone is quite useful Grin

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 15/05/2022 16:29

is it acceptable to report a thread for being goady and utterly moronic? I don’t know, as some people are engaging with it and if they somehow see some kind of value in the thread or its OP I don’t want to ruin their fun. I don’t know if it would be deleted if reported but it’s sufficiently goady that there’s a good chance. 🤷‍♀️

PrelateChuckles · 15/05/2022 16:54

You can report repeated patterns of posts that show the poster is not engaging in good faith.
If they're contradicting themselves repeatedly or just slagging people off I'd summarise that in the 'report post'.