EHRC cuts ties with Stonewall.

[Novina]

Has anyone else seen this? From Sex Matters:

sex-matters.org/posts/updates/press-release-equality-and-human-rights-commission-cuts-ties-with-stonewall

[AfternoonToffee]

They really need to channel their inner Ronan Keating.

"You say it best when you say nothing at all."

[Leafstamp]

Thank you to nauticant and others for archiving the evidence.

[cakedays]

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

Stonewall just listed this twitter.com/stonewalluk/status/1396374101988569091?s=09

I'm not really sure they want to be highlighting this to all of their followers?

Ugh! "u ok hun?" A line straight from the Tumblr feeds of teenagers. These organisations really need to rein in the kiddies they employ to run their social media.

Do they just not get that to actual adults that tweet just reads as juvenile and ridiculous? Your organisation is getting some significant negative press in the national broadsheets and you think an appropriate response is "you're being creepy", for all the world as if you're talking about your mum coming in and telling you to tidy up your bedroom?

Christ, we desperately need grown ups to take charge of our public discourse and let's hope the EHRC letter is the start of that.

[HecatesCatsInFancyHats]

Now they've gone on the attack. We've done nothing wrong, everyone is out to get us! They don't seem to know how to do anything else...

twitter.com/stonewalluk/status/1396424940702818304?s=21

[ChazsBrilliantAttitude]

Hecates

DARVO in action

[HecatesCatsInFancyHats]

Yep

[CriticalCondition]

Perhaps Stonewall's media team should have a think about Point 13 of the Reindorf report on Essex University's fiasco which recommended that social media should not be delegated to junior staff or interns.

[IvyTwines2]

'TIE'? An unfortunate acronym for a group focussed on children, but there you go.

[HecatesCatsInFancyHats]

They need to find the plot, they seem to have misplaced it.

[Igneococcus]

This just now made it into the Radio 3 news.

[nauticant]

This is actually being reported on The World At One on Radio 4 right now. Including referring to Stonewall's "illegal advice on transgender issues".

[DadDadDad]

I wonder when Stonewall will get round to publishing their annual accounts?

Their financial year runs to the end of September. They didn't submit their Sept 2019 accounts to the Charity Commission until the end of July last year (ie right at the statutory deadline), and those showed them running at a loss. I assume we'll have to wait until July for the Sept 2020 accounts. Will they show a (growing) loss?

If you want details: register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-search/-/charity-details/3992465/accounts-and-annual-returns

[nauticant]

The other day there was an extended retrospective interview of Ian Hislop on Radio 4. In it he mentioned how when he was being a thorn in the side of the tabloids they set out to discredit him, basically turning over his entire life, private detectives, going through bins, all that kind of thing, in what's called a monstering. He said he welcomed the scrutiny and felt it benefitted him because the more they dug and failed the discredit him, the more he felt assured in his position of being such a strong critic of the tabloids.

Stonewall could benefit from listening to that programme and learning from it.

[CriticalCondition]

Good of Stonewall to confirm that today there are 850 Diversity Champions. It will be very interesting to see what happens to that number over the next few months.

My guess is that Stonewall will re-structure and rebrand the scheme under another name so they can bury the falling numbers.

[somethinginoffensive]

@nauticant

This is actually being reported on The World At One on Radio 4 right now. Including referring to Stonewall's "illegal advice on transgender issues".

I heard that too.

More sunlight. Excellent!

[HecatesCatsInFancyHats]

@nauticant

This is actually being reported on The World At One on Radio 4 right now. Including referring to Stonewall's "illegal advice on transgender issues".

Blimey

[Sophoclesthefox]

Fucking hell, they really do see this as the hill they want to die on. I’m bringing popcorn!

[BettyFilous]

@nauticant

This is actually being reported on The World At One on Radio 4 right now. Including referring to Stonewall's "illegal advice on transgender issues".

You could have blown me down with a feather. It referenced the Essex report too.

[Ereshkigalangcleg]

Are they actually on glue? Do they think that this is an appropriate, never mind adequate response?

Mind blowing. Gonna get on with reinforcing the idea that Stonewall are not fit for purpose by posting like a sixteen year old’s closing lines before slamming the door to their bedroom because GOD MUM YOURE SUCH A FUCKING KAREN.

They're playing to their puerile audience.

[heathspeedwell]

Just heard on Facebook that Nestle are dropping Stonewall too. I don't know how to verify that, but it would be hilarious if Nestle have too much pride in their reputation to be associated with the likes of Stonewall.

[Grellbunt]

When the tide turns in popular opinion nowadays, it really turns...

[Ereshkigalangcleg]

Absolutely horrible slogan.

It is. I was quite amused that EHRC used it in their letter saying they had withdrawn. Epic trolling, said my DP.

[HecatesCatsInFancyHats]

EHRC: we're cutting ties with Stonewall (between the lines - because they've been misleading organisation about equality law)

Stonewall: YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF TRANSPHOBES

It's not going to wash any more lads.

[EmbarrassingAdmissions]

@heathspeedwell

Just heard on Facebook that Nestle are dropping Stonewall too. I don't know how to verify that, but it would be hilarious if Nestle have too much pride in their reputation to be associated with the likes of Stonewall.

No announcements on Nestle's site but hard to know if they would want this to be a quiet thing or if somebody has the wrong end of the stick?

www.nestle.co.uk/en-gb/media/pressreleases?field_internal_tag_target_id%5B%5D=6686&title=stonewall&year=2021

It's better for people to review their partnerships quietly than to make some atonement or public embrace of a redemption narrative - there are still too many countries where that wouldn't play well.

[RedDogsBeg]

@nauticant

This is actually being reported on The World At One on Radio 4 right now. Including referring to Stonewall's "illegal advice on transgender issues".

No punches being pulled there then. Nice to hear facts and accuracy in BBC reporting for a change.