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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

EHRC cuts ties with Stonewall.

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Novina · 23/05/2021 00:35

Has anyone else seen this? From Sex Matters:

sex-matters.org/posts/updates/press-release-equality-and-human-rights-commission-cuts-ties-with-stonewall

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JediGnot · 29/05/2021 20:00

@LunaNorth

I’m appalled to be compared to an anti-Semite. Disgraceful.
To be fair, by asserting that gender is everything and sex is nothing, she did pretty much call everyone who is the genetic result of male sperm fertilizing a female egg an anti-semite! Don't let her get to you.
JediGnot · 29/05/2021 20:01

@TheMostBeautifulDogInTheWorld

Stonewall aren't actually themselves lawyers, don't have a high level in-house lawyer position, and only have one lawyer (specialising in fraud, not equality law) on their board of trustees - and trustees are not involved in day to day operations.

So we ought to be scrupulously fair and point out that no doubt a huge part of the problem is that Stonewall themselves have been getting extremely poor legal advice - probably for years.

TheMostBeautifulDogInTheWorld

Stonewall aren't actually themselves lawyers, don't have a high level in-house lawyer position, and only have one lawyer (specialising in fraud, not equality law

Oh the irony... organisation pushing gender identity agenda has a lawyer specializing in fraud!

RedDogsBeg · 29/05/2021 20:11

Am I reading that right, The House of Commons has left the Stonewall Diversity scheme?

Hmm seems like Stonewall:

Giving deliberately incorrect advice on the legal duties of organisations in respect of the EQA
Not supporting organisations facing the consequences of following that advice
Rebuking the EHRC for intervening in a case about the EQA because EHRC intervened for a party that SW despise
Angrily writing an open letter to the EHRC demanding they fall in line with Stonewall, or else

is not the winning strategy Stonewall arrogantly assumed it would be.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 29/05/2021 20:15

@RedDogsBeg

Am I reading that right, The House of Commons has left the Stonewall Diversity scheme?

Hmm seems like Stonewall:

Giving deliberately incorrect advice on the legal duties of organisations in respect of the EQA
Not supporting organisations facing the consequences of following that advice
Rebuking the EHRC for intervening in a case about the EQA because EHRC intervened for a party that SW despise
Angrily writing an open letter to the EHRC demanding they fall in line with Stonewall, or else

is not the winning strategy Stonewall arrogantly assumed it would be.

According to the Telegraph some of them happened some time ago rather than as a consequence of recent events.

But several major names on the list confirmed to this newspaper that they have left, though this was not related to the EHRC’s decision and they all stressed their commitment to inclusion and equality.
The House of Commons said it did not renew its membership for 2020. The Driver & Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) said it exited in December, while Acas, the employment dispute service, said it had withdrawn “for cost reasons” last June.
Dorset Police, one of multiple forces previously listed as part of the scheme, said it is now not a member. The Ministry of Housing and Local Government said it left in 2019.

RedDogsBeg · 29/05/2021 20:19

Thanks Embarrassing.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 29/05/2021 20:24

But several major names on the list confirmed to this newspaper that they have left, though this was not related to the EHRC’s decision and they all stressed their commitment to inclusion and equality

Of course they said that...

RedDogsBeg · 29/05/2021 20:33

Crown Prosecution Service says We are reviewing our Stonewall membership and will shortly make a decision on whether to continue this.

This is very interesting as the last time the CPS were questioned about the impartiality of their relationship with Stonewall they very firmly told those posing the questions to go away.

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