She's such a hateful bigot, isn't she?

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JK Rowling has donated £1 million of royalties from one of her children’s books to help fight the Covid-19 crisis in India.

The Harry Potter author is understood to have split the sum between two UK-based charities involved in relief work, including the provision of emergency oxygen supplies.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jk-rowlings-1m-fairytale-gift-to-covid-oxygen-charities-csn5xb9tv

No mention of why Maya Forstater is a "transphobe" then?

Just popping in to say how much I respect and admire JKR.

Fabulous woman.

Good for you JK!

This must be absolutely KILLING her haters. (Who hate her for absolutely naff-all by the way.)

I think the young actors/actresses, (who were made famous by the Harry Potter films,) turning against her, shocked me more than anything.. But all the fans of her books and the films doing it too, was sad and depressing. The 'cancel culture' bollocks is pathetic and sad.

They've started on Jesy (formerly from Little Mix) now. Twitter are trying to cancel her. For apparently 'thin shaming' her friend, and also accusing her of trying to pretend she is a woman of colour. Because she curls her hair, puts fake tan on, and makes her lips look fuller with lip liner. Ya know, like millions of other Caucasian women!

Yet these same people were hugely supportive of Jesy when she did the TV programme about all the hate and bullying she had had since Little Mix won X Factor.

She has had the same look - ie, tanning her skin, making her lips fuller, and curling her hair, for the past 10 years. But the twitterati and social media in general have decided she deserves hate and vitriol for it now, because she 'thin-shamed' a friend (Perri I think it was, from Little Mix...)

Honestly, these people make me sick. Social media is so toxic sometimes.

Hats off to JK though! Oh, and also, I agree with many people on here that JK is NOT transphobic. And many transgender folk will agree to that too. It's just the radical far-left wokies who claim that. They are the same weirdos who hang around on twitter, spouting their venom there too!

As for @cripez comment? WTAF?

I have noticed most of the (few) posters on here bashing JK, and saying she is a transphobe, and a bigot, are not saying anything when other posters are asking them why. Complete Radio Silence from most. That's because they can't give an answer. Because JK ISN'T a transphobe and a bigot! (And the few responses that HAVE been given are weak and pathetic, and pretty much a load of bollocks.)

I'm sure you'll continue to rip me apart for my completely non-controversial stance that JKR's charitable work can and should be separated from her views on trans rights

That's not what people are having an issue with.

Peach that is an interesting point that public figures should consider their influence before speaking. She DID consider the influence she has. I’m sure she also considered the fact that she was going to get a lot of vile abuse and people trying to cancel her and saying she is responsible for murdering trans people around the world. I’m sure she considered that people would think she was a bigot and a nazi.

She considered the fact that despite all of this she could influence the situation for good by speaking out, and empowering other women to feel like we don’t have to remain silent on the subject. She considered that she might influence parents of gnc children who are struggling with knowing what the right thing to do is and are being guided by the likes of Mermaids down an irreversible path. She considered her influence when she decided to use her platform to bring light to whistle blowers from the Tavistock who have resigned/been sacked/can’t speak publicly as their careers are at risk. She’s using her platform to speak on behalf of many psychologists/doctors/parents who are concerned about the path we are on but are scared of the consequences of speaking publicly about it.

You’ve said yourself that you don’t believe the statements she’s made are transphobic. So how can you expect her to stay silent. She doesn’t have responsibility over a few emboldened transphobes. She has a responsibility to herself and her own conscience. She’s always said she is a very conscience-led person and it doesn’t surprise me at all that she felt the need to speak on this topic. Many of us are grateful that she did use her influence to put her head on the chopping block for us.

[quote Ereshkigalangcleg]^**@peachgreen Your evidence for Maya Forstater being a transphobe is?^

Could you clarify this, please, @peachgreen, it's probably best not to go around smearing other Mumsnetters without backing it up.[/quote]
Like all the other questions we ask that are never answered Eresh this one won't be, or we will get because I said so which can be read as because that's what people on Twitter say/told me to say. It's no wonder that side of the 'debate' did and do so much to stop debate, they have no coherent arguments or evidence whatsoever, hence the threats, the name calling, the doxxing, the reporting to employers and the police, the smearing, the abuse.

I think JKR is probably the most inspirational woman I know of.

Love JK she's an amazing woman

Well that wasn't predictable. Front page of The Times tomorrow:
JK Rowling critic fails to justify her views and runs away from debate.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more consistent absence of ability to put together a coherent defence of an argument than the “Rowling Bad” argument. It just. Never. Comes.

Even Flat Earthers have a good crack at theirs.

Can't stand it when people throw the words nazi and fascist around to describe people they just don't agree with. The irony!

There seems to be a mindset that GC = transphobic. That is a logical fallacy, of course, but it doesn't stop people using it.

And the more the term 'transphobia' is used to denigrate anyone who is GC, the less it has any meaning. Now it just means I don't agree with what you're saying so you're transphobic and you're transphobic because I don't agree with what you are saying.

You have not given a single example of JKR's "stance on trans rights".

Sorry, I didn't think I needed to? Her stance on trans rights is very clear. She made a statement outlining it. I don't agree with it. That's all I have said.

So you disagree with Joanne Rowling that transgender people should have equal rights to all of us and should be protected from discrimination and harassment because of their trans status? Because that is her publicly expressed view on trans rights.

I honestly struggle to see how you can possibly disagree with her on this.

For your information, Joanne Rowling's statement was not a statement outlining her views on trans rights, but a statement outlining her views on the importance of single-sex provisions for female victims of male violence and of the importance of those women being able to freely talk about their need for female-only provisions. And about the impossibility of addressing and remedying the discrimination women and girls experience on the basis of their sex if they are no longer allowed to talk about sex.

She mentioned her views on transgender people only briefly in that statement in confirming that she wants equal rights for them and that she wants them to be protected from discrimination, harassment and violence on the basis of their transgender status.

So again, please, which particular trans rights are you referring to when you say you disagree with Joanne Rowling's views on trans rights?

You have not given a single example of JKR "us[ing] her platform in ways that have legitimised transphobia

I have explained this.

Well, no, you have claimed her responsible for the social media posts of randoms on the internet. Are trans rights campaigners responsible for the horrific abuse meted out by randoms on social media to women who speak about their need for single-sex provisions? Do you honestly believe these trans rights campaigner are therefore legitimising misogyny and attacks on women? Because that is the flip side of the coin you're holding.

A trans ally let the mask slip and allowed his misogyny to shine through this weekend in a twitter thread he wrote about what the new head of the EHRC said about women needing single sex spaces.

This male trans ally said: '...if women are allowed to question trans identity' then it opens the floodgates to all hate speech.

Note, women, not people.

A perfect example of the misogyny that lies behind TRAs motivations. He is not even hiding behind an anonymous account. A business owner and on the advisory board of the Terence Higgins Trust.

These people don't want women questioning anything, full stop. Protecting male privilege is the most important thing - doesn't matter how the male privilege comes packaged, it must not be questioned by women!!!

I love her even more now!

@peachgreen

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reprehension

We are no longer allowed to strongly disaprove or disagree?

Thankfully, in the absence of an edit button, you cannot rewrite history. Your disingenuous revision of the substance of your posts is here for all to see.

No comments on JKR stating she fully believed in trans people's "right to live any way that feels authentic and comfortable to them"?
You've said you disagree with her views on trans rights. Why do you disagree with something so inherent as someone's right to life? Because that's what she actually said if you'd cared to read.

I agree nodal, I know a lot people think it’s pathetic and we ‘worship her’ etc. but I for one feel so grateful to her that she has never backed down on this issue.

@peachgreen

Okay, being called "reprehensible" for not wishing to discuss someone else's experiences of sexual assault is about my limit here. I'm sure you'll continue to rip me apart for my completely non-controversial stance that JKR's charitable work can and should be separated from her views on trans rights and therefore celebrated regardless of your opinion on said views, but I'm going to hide the thread now.

aand there we have it, can't back up or defend their statements, slur someone and can't defend or back it up, no argument, no evidence, and off we flounce, pathetic.

@peachgreen I know you have said you are hiding this thread now, however, if you are still reading, I think you are coming at this from the "be kind' angle. I've seen some of your previous threads and know you've been through a terrible bereavement but I also know you have a small daughter. If we continue to go the way that the genderists want us to, it will affect her life greatly. You can not show us anything that shows Maya F is transphobic. It seems like you have read it somewhere, bought into the myth and just repeating it here without any critical thought or looking into what actually happened. Many of us here are ex Labour members and/or voters. Why do you think so many left leaning women are GC? Could there actually be something in it rather than we all woke up as bigots one day?

Thank goodness for women like her speaking out against nonsense

I don't want to use toilets or changing rooms where a man can decide to identify as a woman just like that. I will defend my rights as a woman to call myself a woman thank you very much.

I believe no one should be discriminated against for how they choose to live but I also believe in the safety and protection of girls worldwide

Comparing her to Hitler wtf! Well at least I learnt some interesting things about Hitler today

A trans ally let the mask slip and allowed his misogyny to shine through this weekend in a twitter thread he wrote about what the new head of the EHRC said about women needing single sex spaces.

This male trans ally said: '...if women are allowed to question trans identity' then it opens the floodgates to all hate speech.

Note, women, not people.

Yes I saw that and posted about it on another thread. Shockingly misogynistic.

The flouncing is sad.

I genuinely want to see the answers to the questions we ask. It's not a gotcha or to catch them out (the gaps in their arguments inevitably reveal themselves) but I sincerely want to understand why and how those views are formed. More importantly, I want to know why some would see women suffer in the name of validating the feelings of a sex class that has dominated and opressed since the beginning of society itself. Why women are content to let men literally define us.
Not in the sense of a "sisterhood". I'm too worn down to believe in that anymore, but in acknowledgment of the fact women are more vulnerable and victimised on every level. Have we not lost enough yet?

I thought I'd seen it all on twitter but that actually shocked me. A man, not even on an anonymous account, showing his true misogynistic colours, in this day and age. "If women are allowed" Sounds like something written in the 18th century, Steve Wardlaw, you massive, misogynistic prick.

As ever, I wonder what happened to these men as little boys.

@peachgreen

have to disagree with you . She has supported trans rights all she has said is they should not supercede or overrule womens rights .

That is no different at all than saying men and women should have equal rights .

what is wrong with that?

This must be absolutely KILLING her haters. grin (Who hate her for absolutely naff-all by the way.)

Evidently, as we have posters never befoee seen on this forum popping up to cry "Bigot!". And failing miserably to substantiate their claims.

Apparently she should have kept her mouth shut, but presumably famous people with a different opinion can say whatever they like, and aren't responsible for the harassment and abuse coming from TRAs. Funny old world.