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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Girl pushed under train.

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Thelnebriati · 10/05/2021 22:50

The girls all have to run past the boys to board the train.
One girl is kicked in the face, spat on, shoved, tripped up, and ends up falling on to the tracks.

The guard in they hi vis yellow jacket just watches.

I'm at the end of my tether with male violence and entitlement.

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SinisterBumFacedCat · 17/05/2021 19:10

Well, I think looking at the mother’s reaction it’s no fucking surprise her son has turned out the way he has.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 17/05/2021 19:35

But what I will never understand is - if some little ratbag did this to her, her mum or sister or daughter, she’d be cool? Yeah right ...

GreyhoundG1rl · 17/05/2021 19:47

@Selkie1961

Wow, she is doing that because she is ashamed of her son. I would keep my head down if i were her. I have a 15 year old son ans i know you cant tell a 15 year old boy a foot taller 2hat to do. So i would not hold amother responsible for what her son does. But i am shaking my head in disbelief at her suing irish rail!
I highly doubt “shame” is the motivator here, sadly. The article itself quotes a source as saying she’s “looking to get a (compensation) claim in”. Obnoxious creature that she is.
Selkie1961 · 17/05/2021 19:51

@brandinedelroy i see, that is how lawyers justify taking large sums of money out of public service purses. To suggest that the girls can rectify that wrong by suing the boys! But they shouldnt have to endure that stress and also, irish rail would still be left short and their customers would pay for that.

BrandineDelRoy · 17/05/2021 19:59

[quote Selkie1961]@brandinedelroy i see, that is how lawyers justify taking large sums of money out of public service purses. To suggest that the girls can rectify that wrong by suing the boys! But they shouldnt have to endure that stress and also, irish rail would still be left short and their customers would pay for that.[/quote]
I'm not trying to justify anything. I'm an employee of and represent a government entity in my country. I'd be among those defending against this kind of suit for the taxpayer. I'm just throwing out some ideas for those who might be lurking.

Selkie1961 · 17/05/2021 20:13

I know, it wasnt an attack on you, but that is the rationale for draining public services in these cases. There's always a rationale. That's the fake beaty of the law. I dont know what the answer is.

BrandineDelRoy · 17/05/2021 21:19

@Selkie1961

I know, it wasnt an attack on you, but that is the rationale for draining public services in these cases. There's always a rationale. That's the fake beaty of the law. I dont know what the answer is.
I understand.
Zzelda · 17/05/2021 23:23

The law has long since been on the side of wrongdoers

Nonsense. If that were the case, we wouldn't have so many laws criminalising undesirable behaviour.

If you mean lawyers, in criminal cases they should operate under the cab rank rule and take on all comers provided that they are available. They don't know whether the accused is guilty and are perfectly entitled to test the case against their client.

So far as civil claims are concerned, there is rather more latitude and lawyers can certainly refuse to take on claims that aren't viable, and I think that is likely to be the difficulty with this one. When people are in public places like railway platforms they must be aware the CCTV is on and that they will be filmed, and indeed I suspect that implied consent to filming is written into railway bylaws. As I understand it, this railway company didn't release the broadcast, so the parent would have to find out who did - which may not be easy - and would have to consider whether that individual actually has the means to satisfy any judgment. The individual concerned has an argument that publication of the film isn't necessarily a breach of any privacy rights - after all, there are videos all over YouTube and the TV of people wandering around the streets. There is also an argument that, if there is any claim, damages should be limited to what would be payable for having your image released - which would be minimal - on the basis that any vilification that this young man has attracted is caused solely by his own behaviour.

One limitation on the suggestion that lawyers will take on any interesting claim is that of funding. This is certainly not one that is likely to attract a now-win no-fee arrangement, because the lawyer needs to be able to discern at least a reasonable prospect of winning. Legal Aid isn't available, and I can't seriously see something like crowdfunding getting off the ground.

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