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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans Widows Escape Committee 5: And so it continues...

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TinselAngel · 04/05/2021 21:25

Welcome to thread 5. A virtual prize for anyone who can guess the geeky sci fi reference in the thread title.

This is a support area for women who are, or have been, in unhappy relationships with male partners who are transitioning, or exploring their "gender identity"

If you are in that position-

  1. You are not alone
  2. It is not a situation that you should be expected to tolerate, let alone celebrate.
  3. There is always a way out, if you want it. The thread is called Escape Committee for that reason

Remember: women talking to each other is a powerful weapon!

In four years we have gone from starting the first thread, to launching a website, to be invited to give evidence to a government inquiry, which is pretty spectacular when you think about it.

Thanks to all the women who have told their stories and particularly to those who have stuck around to help others. Thanks also to @socialworker222 who remains nice cop, to my stern cop.

Do say hello to start the thread off!

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TinselAngel · 10/05/2021 09:37

@QuinnMovesOn

Haha, B5!
Gold Star for Quinn! Star
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Jannetra17 · 10/05/2021 11:27

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UtopiaPlanitia · 10/05/2021 13:11

Popping in to declare my support for Tinsel and the other brave women on this thread Flowers

Also, Tinsel, as a massive scifi fan myself (Star Trek-themed username and all 🤓), I bloody love your scifi-themed thread titles - live long and prosper🖖

TinselAngel · 10/05/2021 13:13

@UtopiaPlanitia

Popping in to declare my support for Tinsel and the other brave women on this thread Flowers

Also, Tinsel, as a massive scifi fan myself (Star Trek-themed username and all 🤓), I bloody love your scifi-themed thread titles - live long and prosper🖖

Nobody even commented that the third thread was Terminator 3 related Sad
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Faffertea · 10/05/2021 13:27

De-lurking to say how extraordinary I think you all are. Strong, resilient women, every one of you.

yeahbutnaw · 10/05/2021 13:38

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SeasideM · 10/05/2021 20:39

Wow I am really losing my sci-fi cred here! I had to so back and look at the thread names to catch that thread 3 reference. Too brilliant @TinselAngel

Mother’s Day here in the US went ok. He’s on what I feel is a idealization cycle so I’m very on guard and suspicious. That gut instinct I have ignored so much I am holding on to now. It being the first one after the announcement I feared there would be an attempt to also have it be “his day”.

socialworker222 · 10/05/2021 21:09

Southern it's good to hear you have freed yourself. And absolutely, you're not only their mother but have been a consistent parent and put your kids first. You will have their love, trust and respect. Meanwhile the mess that transitioning fathers leave behind becomes their responsibility to repair. As children get older, it gets easier to very simply support their decisions and wishes. Mine know they can change their minds, and have different choices from one another, going forward. You remain the rock but you get free and start again. You will so come out the other side. Life is good over here, and as Tinsel reminds me, so much better than having your life controlled, damaged and limited by a toxic and self-centred partner.

Zeev · 10/05/2021 22:50

@QuinnMovesOn

Haha, B5!
My mind automatically continued with "There is a hole in your mind. What do you want? No one here is exactly what he appears"
Rejoiningperson · 10/05/2021 22:53

Just looked out of curiosity, as I don’t know much about this. However reading some of the stories it’s quite heartbreaking. So just sending sympathies and hope all women have a chance to be heard somewhere.

TinselAngel · 10/05/2021 23:06

My mind automatically continued with "There is a hole in your mind. What do you want? No one here is exactly what he appears"

😍 I'm overdue a B5 rewatch.

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QuinnMovesOn · 11/05/2021 05:51

@SouthernTW, I'm so glad you're getting closer to being done with the legal stuff. Alas that's not the end of it... I know it's taken me a long time to get past the mindfuck aspects of this, and realistically I'm still working on it, but this is a huge step towards that.

DeeplyMovingExperience · 12/05/2021 19:28

Am I losing perspective here? In the Style & Beauty section, there's this highly detailed thread describing outfits. With pictures. And I can't help but think...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/style_and_beauty/4243201-Help-me-decide-what-lockdown-purchases-to-wear-on-a-fancy-lunch-date#prettyPhoto

ProfessorInkling · 12/05/2021 19:34

[quote DeeplyMovingExperience]Am I losing perspective here? In the Style & Beauty section, there's this highly detailed thread describing outfits. With pictures. And I can't help but think...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/style_and_beauty/4243201-Help-me-decide-what-lockdown-purchases-to-wear-on-a-fancy-lunch-date#prettyPhoto[/quote]
Without a doubt.

This makes me wonder about what my ex did when he dressed up. And how I’d feel if I recognised him in such a thread.

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 12/05/2021 20:23

Sending love and support to you amazing women. Flowers
TinselAngel - you deserve a medal - or possibly an honour.

Please don't tell me those deletions are people attacking a support thread?

socialworker222 · 12/05/2021 21:02

Am I losing perspective here?
No I dont think you are. This stuff takes on all-consuming importance.
I still feel shocked at the sight of my ex (mercifully only occasionally) sashaying round our (unfortunately not that big) town, shudder.
Not sure what the deletions were. Maybe people are threatened by the success and longevity of this resource.

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 12/05/2021 21:24

Maybe people are threatened by the success and longevity of this resource.

Long may it thrive.

TinselAngel · 12/05/2021 21:34

One deletion was a spammer who has been everywhere and one was a lame attack.

I think you're right about that Style and Beauty thread.

I'm going to try and have a break for a couple of weeks because I'm exhausted but I know you'll all look after each other Wine

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Cailleach1 · 12/05/2021 21:36

Oh my! You wouldn't put those ensembles on the cat. Miss Havisham in sepia.

Live long and prosper!

socialworker222 · 13/05/2021 12:21

Interestingly that thread is being investigated after multiple reports. Maybe asking (mainly) women to collude with something fetishy is not ok after all...

SouthernTW · 13/05/2021 13:00

I haven't had to see stbx in full femme yet. He's using the incremental boiling the frog method.

QuinnMovesOn · 13/05/2021 15:16

That thread was... odd. It may have been legit (a female poster) but had a very odd "validate meeee!" vibe to it.

MumKateB · 19/05/2021 20:35

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Zeev · 19/05/2021 20:52

Hmmm.