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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbian Visibility Week

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ASugarr · 01/05/2021 07:39

As Lesbian Visibility Week comes to an end, I want to make a quick reminder that
ALL LESBIANS ARE VALID!

Cisgender and Transgender women can be lesbians. Transgender men who date women don't consider themselves lesbians. All Lesbians deserve visibility!

Additionally, many have stated that they don't wish to date transgender people. That's fine! Just because someone is in the same dating pool doesn't mean you MUST be attracted to them. Plus genital preference is also totally fine! But don't forget, trans women are women so please do not degrade them just because you personally don't wish to date them.

Plus, let's continue to educate one another on the important information. Like preventing STI's as a lesbian, domestic abuse in lesbian relationships and how to deal with that, safe and consentual sex between lesbians. This is what we need to be educating young lesbians and bisexual women on.

Have a fabulous long weekend all 🤍🌈

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WhoNeedsaManOfTheWorld · 01/05/2021 08:38

I was in Harrogate a couple of years ago in the park when Pride was on.
There were a group of young women all no older than 20 I'd guess and a large male with them. I don't know how they identified but I'm guessing by dress as a TW. Much older, at least 50. This person was so obviously dominant in the group. It made me so sad that thd group of young females allowed themselves so be dominated by the older male. It was interesting to watch their interactions as I sat on grass

BatleyTownswomensGuild · 01/05/2021 08:38

Can the it grow a new arm though, or is it just that the it can grow a new arm?

Maybe the starfish thought you were a predator? Gekkos shed their tails when being pursued by a predator. "I'll just leave this tail here for you and then I'll run off over there. Don't follow. Enjoy the tail."

As people note - Biology is awesome!

NecessaryScene1 · 01/05/2021 08:39

However if that's how you depict humans as if they are Legal enough then sure. I personally don't.

You just did - you were justifying their status by them being "legally female".

But I accept the retraction.

risefromyourgrave · 01/05/2021 08:39

Biology is just amazing, isn't it?
It really is, have just been reading this BBC link about whether anything can live forever and it has a section about the immortal jellyfish. Other jellyfish apparently lose the ability to ‘change age’ once they reach sexual maturity but the immortal jellyfish doesn’t. It looks very impressive too.
It’s an interesting article. Further down it refers to Henrietta Lacks, who deserves a thread all of her own. It’s a while since I read ‘The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks’ but it is a fascinating and sad story and I must re-read.

www.bbc.co.uk/earth/story/20150622-can-anything-live-forever

MelissaVonStressel · 01/05/2021 08:39

Similarly to the danger and abuse transgender men and women face with lesbianism and the misconceptions.

I'm not sure whether it comes under your definition of "danger" or "misconceptions" but I do know your definition of "lesbianism" includes sex between two penis owners. I apologise about referring the penis owners by their genitalia by the way but sometimes words matter.

YoniAndGuy · 01/05/2021 08:39

How can a woman mansplain? Explain that to me?

Oh so biological sex matters now, does it?!

🤣

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/05/2021 08:41

That's usually due to how hard a GRC is to get. However if that's how you depict humans as if they are Legal enough then sure. I personally don't.

That's not the point. You were specifically speaking about how they were women legally, which 99% of them aren't. You have just implied that only the tiny group of MTF trans people with a GRC are actually women. Which I don't applies to many of the ones you personally know. Well done! You really should be more careful how you word things.

ASugarr · 01/05/2021 08:42

@YoniAndGuy

How can a woman mansplain? Explain that to me?

Oh so biological sex matters now, does it?!

🤣

Actually no. But I'm a cisgender woman so.
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Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/05/2021 08:43

There were a group of young women all no older than 20 I'd guess and a large male with them. I don't know how they identified but I'm guessing by dress as a TW. Much older, at least 50. This person was so obviously dominant in the group. It made me so sad that thd group of young females allowed themselves so be dominated by the older male. It was interesting to watch their interactions as I sat on grass

Very. The last thing I'd have done in my 20s was hang out with middle aged males. Still, each to their own.

Helleofabore · 01/05/2021 08:43

Darn. We’d = sex

transsloth · 01/05/2021 08:44

'The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks’ but it is a fascinating and sad story and I must re-read.

I have that book but haven't read it yet. I should do.

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 01/05/2021 08:44

I am a cisgender woman so please don't disrespect my identity.

And we’re women. As in the term used for adult human members of the female sex. No gender required. So please don’t continue to disrespect our identity (although I know you probably will).

ASugarr · 01/05/2021 08:44

@Letsgetreadytocrumble

How can a woman mansplain? Explain that to me?

Well, you're the one going on about how males can be lesbians so.... 🤷‍♀️

As I've got to leave, I'll leave you by saying that people who are born male aren't all men. Similarly with all born females. That's why in terms of sexuality it isn't important. You can have your own views and your own genital preference and partner preference. However that doesn't mean trans women who are lesbians don't exist. And that trans men dating women aren't straight. Maybe take a look at what else I tried to mention about safe sex, STIs and more and focus on that. Have a good long weekend all
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CorvusPurpureus · 01/05/2021 08:45

Hang on, have we managed to agree that lesbians need to be 'legally female'?

Blimey, that's a breakthrough.

Not that Asugarr 's opinion has all that much merit given that she is not, in fact, a lesbian, but it's an encouraging small step back to Reality Planet.

ASugarr · 01/05/2021 08:46

@CorvusPurpureus

Hang on, have we managed to agree that lesbians need to be 'legally female'?

Blimey, that's a breakthrough.

Not that Asugarr 's opinion has all that much merit given that she is not, in fact, a lesbian, but it's an encouraging small step back to Reality Planet.

No. They do not.
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Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/05/2021 08:47

I am a cisgender woman so please don't disrespect my identity.

Yes, you have given yourself a fringe in-group label. That's nice for you. Most women on the thread are neither trans nor any other fashionable label relating to "gender" like "cis" as we don't share your belief system, and only recognise sex as a meaningful category.

ChewtonRoad · 01/05/2021 08:48

Further down it refers to Henrietta Lacks, who deserves a thread all of her own.
She deserved a lot more than what life gave her. Cells taken from her without her knowledge or consent, but what a difference those cells have made to thousands of people's lives in the last 70 years.

Proof that sex matters, I think. www.immunology.org/hela-cells-1951

IheartJKR · 01/05/2021 08:48

But I thought you were gone Grin

CorvusPurpureus · 01/05/2021 08:51

But you said: 'If we are talking about biological sex then yes. However legally trans women are female.'

You were then corrected, as of course only transwomen with a GRC have the legal fiction of being 'female'.

But it did rather seem that this 'legally female' assertion was part of your argument.

Would you prefer to retract it?

Leafstamp · 01/05/2021 08:54

The OP is completely embarrassing herself. Again.

Fromage · 01/05/2021 08:54

Hang on. If transwomen are female, are they cis?

Helleofabore · 01/05/2021 08:55

So I think we can take is as a NO then. There has been no action taken by the trans activists to address the group within their community who continue to abuse lesbians this week.

Of course, the group abusing and harassing lesbians is not representative of the entirety of trans activists. However the lack of action directly to address this is quite clear in what it communicates to everyone else.

Maybe someone else who is activating for rights to improve the lives of trans people, their health, their opportunities, can let us know.

Again, I am sure plenty of us will be happy to join in the campaign if it eliminates this abuse for females who are attracted to the same sex.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/05/2021 08:55

But it did rather seem that this 'legally female' assertion was part of your argument.

Would you prefer to retract it?

I would, if I were her. Because if "trans women are legally female", what are the ones without a GRC? Not trans? Not women? I think we know, and it's completely in line with the Equality Act.

Fromage · 01/05/2021 08:55

TWAW. TWACW. TWAF.

Fromage · 01/05/2021 08:56

I'm me own grandpa.

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