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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbian Visibility Week

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ASugarr · 01/05/2021 07:39

As Lesbian Visibility Week comes to an end, I want to make a quick reminder that
ALL LESBIANS ARE VALID!

Cisgender and Transgender women can be lesbians. Transgender men who date women don't consider themselves lesbians. All Lesbians deserve visibility!

Additionally, many have stated that they don't wish to date transgender people. That's fine! Just because someone is in the same dating pool doesn't mean you MUST be attracted to them. Plus genital preference is also totally fine! But don't forget, trans women are women so please do not degrade them just because you personally don't wish to date them.

Plus, let's continue to educate one another on the important information. Like preventing STI's as a lesbian, domestic abuse in lesbian relationships and how to deal with that, safe and consentual sex between lesbians. This is what we need to be educating young lesbians and bisexual women on.

Have a fabulous long weekend all 🤍🌈

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RedDogsBeg · 03/05/2021 00:10

Well, this thread has certainly been an education for the lurkers and watchers - lesbophobia, homophobia, racism, obfuscation, wilful misrepresentation of law, science and biology, and all of it from the anti women's rights side.

IheartJKR · 03/05/2021 07:40

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

I Love ❤️ Dr Jess Taylor also. She does fantastic work for women.

IheartJKR · 03/05/2021 07:41

We don't think trans women are a subset of women. We don't think they are a type of women.

Women can be tall, silly, dead, old, smelly, Ukrainian, cruel, mothers, CEOs and a million other things. But there's one thing we can't be. We can't be men

Yep.

Nodal · 03/05/2021 10:10

Did ASugarr get banned then in the end? She's on twitter crying about being silenced for using the c slur and how it's not a sslur and how we all need to wake up and agree with her. No mention of her hideous racist remark though of course. Good for MN for applying the rules equally for once if so.

Erikrie · 03/05/2021 10:13

I don't suppose she would boast about the repulsive racist comment. It would spoil the image of the pure and earnest influencer / ally that she portrays herself to be.

Helleofabore · 03/05/2021 10:19

Well to be fair. She is simply repeating what she sees prominent activists get away with time and time again.

That rhetoric has been deemed as acceptable by many.

I did notice though that one monitor has been permabanned from twitter for their use of cis over the weekend.

Maybe posters here will take notice of that banning and realise that the tide has turned and the fallacy that people disagreeing with them are the extreme minority is getting harder to push.

Helleofabore · 03/05/2021 10:22

I imagine getting repeatedly deleted for such a racist remark and the refusal to apologize when call out isn’t something to be proud of at all.

It will also follow that any future posts will likely result in demands from posters for that acknowledgement that they were so completely in the wrong.

Erikrie · 03/05/2021 10:29

I don't think they are permabanned, their account seems to be up and running. Sadly. Well I can still see everything there anyway. Maybe they appealed. Although seeing people get banned on twitter for the use of cis would be extremely satisfying.

Helleofabore · 03/05/2021 10:47

Erikrie

You are right. It seems they (not talking about Asugar to be clear) were merely temporarily suspended despite reports otherwise.....

I apologize for my misinformation (taken from twitter)

Nodal · 03/05/2021 10:48

is S JP?

risefromyourgrave · 03/05/2021 10:56

Actually, having looked at Sugar’s Twitter for the first time, I think that being banned from here would be the best outcome for her.

I know someone with BPD and living with it is really difficult. She should really take more time to look after herself rather than trying to advocate for others. Sometimes we have to be selfish to get better.

(Sorry if this is personal, delete it by all means. I’m just using publicly available information and am genuinely concerned for the OP)

Erikrie · 03/05/2021 11:12

I was hopeful myself Helleofabore, but then thought, hang on, twitter never comes down on the side of actual women who refuse to tow their party line. So I investigated further and found I was right. They hadn't...

That particular person is an utterly repulsive misogynistic. I can't imagine how it would feel to be so consumed with hate and bitterness towards women.

Erikrie · 03/05/2021 11:13

I missed a word out there. By accident. But on reflection, that's probably a good thing 🤣

BeReet · 03/05/2021 11:53

@theThreeofWeevils

Which is a really long winded way of saying you have cis privilege Well, that didn't last long. Deal's off, Shizuku

Please don't write trans women or trans people as a single word. It is offensive to most trans people

Funny how you don't want your spaces taken away, isn't it?

This whole thread has been mind blowing but just needed to say "brava, brava" 👏👏 to @theThreeofWeevils for this absolute gem!
Erikrie · 03/05/2021 12:07

Gosh the spelling mistakes in my last post 😳🤭

Anyway I see that someone is being reassured that they're not being racist at all Confused.

How on earth did we get to this place?

Nodal · 03/05/2021 12:07

ASugar doubling down on twitter now. Apparently we literally are a subset of women and so her comment about black women literally wasn't racist. How sad to be so brainwashed in your mid twenties that you'd throw your own sex class under the bus for woke points and a couple of likes.

Nodal · 03/05/2021 12:10

And now she wants her own thread taken down to hide her racism and bonkers logic, it's like Groundhog Day every weekend now isn't it? What is the point of it all ASugar? We're never going to agree with you that we are a subset of women.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 03/05/2021 12:15

@Nodal

You're just trolling now ASugar Smile

Back to GCSE English for you!

Indeed.

They may as well have hit a wok for all the sense that made!

BONG! 🔔

bitheby · 03/05/2021 12:15

Ah... just found Twitter and read the bio. I see now.

Erikrie · 03/05/2021 12:22

Problem is with t'internet and screenshots nothing ever really disappears. Best to own it and issue the reflection and apology now 🤔

CorvusPurpureus · 03/05/2021 12:22

I very much hope this thread is not taken down.

Although if Asugarr wanted her account deleted & her own posts removed, that might be the kindest thing to do for her.

NecessaryScene1 · 03/05/2021 12:31

And now she wants her own thread taken down to hide her racism and bonkers logic, it's like Groundhog Day every weekend now isn't it?

Over my dead body. Angry

Glitterball This is the Girls Aloud / GLC / Vagina Anthem / Robyn thread. Glitterball

You can't stop the music.

ArabellaScott · 03/05/2021 12:36

Quite, I've had that 'girlfriend' tune stuck in my head since Saturday night.

TommyBrock · 03/05/2021 12:37

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Redapplewreath · 03/05/2021 12:49

It does however help HQ to demonstrate that even with highly biased moderation to provide a lot of proof that they will go out of their way to enable 'the other side of the debate' to be heard, to express their side of things all they wish, and in fact given a great deal more freedom of expression and behaviour than the other side of the debate are allowed, who are strongly restricted and managed in order to ensure more favourable circumstances for those expressing this other side....

it still in fact doesn't help that side of the debate be any less problematic.

HQ can hardly be accused of trying to silence it though. They've allowed it to stand entirely on its own merits.

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