Lesbian Visibility Week

[ASugarr]

As Lesbian Visibility Week comes to an end, I want to make a quick reminder that
ALL LESBIANS ARE VALID!

Cisgender and Transgender women can be lesbians. Transgender men who date women don't consider themselves lesbians. All Lesbians deserve visibility!

Additionally, many have stated that they don't wish to date transgender people. That's fine! Just because someone is in the same dating pool doesn't mean you MUST be attracted to them. Plus genital preference is also totally fine! But don't forget, trans women are women so please do not degrade them just because you personally don't wish to date them.

Plus, let's continue to educate one another on the important information. Like preventing STI's as a lesbian, domestic abuse in lesbian relationships and how to deal with that, safe and consentual sex between lesbians. This is what we need to be educating young lesbians and bisexual women on.

Have a fabulous long weekend all 🤍🌈

@Waitwhat23

I've asked the same question above. I think the OP has had more than 3 deletions on this thread alone.

I believe there is a strike system but a deletion doesn’t equal a strike.

I suppose a strike is for a “really bad” deletion?

People making the comparison are implicitly arguing that if we can count black women as women when they're not white, why not white transwomen, BECAUSE they're white.

In short, it rests on horrific racism.

Indeed it does. Nail on head there.

I'm absolutely horrified at what has transpired here, and actually on all but one of the threads about lesbian visibility this week.

If ever we needed further evidence of the lesbophobia.

I really hope MNHQ is taking a good look. One week, for lesbians, on a feminist board, on a parenting forum.

I despair.

I understand their position but if the policy of suspension after a certain amount of deletions is not going to be applied to all posters then they need to drop it entirely.

Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.

@leafstamp ah, I hadn't realised that there is a difference between a deletion and a strike - that makes sense if it's a certain amount of strikes rather than just deletions.

Is it funny.. odd funny, that the only person trying to deny a black woman, her womanhood is also someone who thinks a male was never a male because they felt female.
Not any single other person, be they male or female is unsure about it, and trying to mention subsets.
Even now in schools and for biology exams children are told it is male or female .
Doctors are being told it's male or female. Just deny all that and pretend to keep the client happy, but treat the body internally as it really is.

@NiceGerbil

The poster is on other social media saying that trans support is deleted and silenced on MN.

Has asked them to shut down all discussions about it on MN.

A ban would be 'proof'.

As ever, MNHQ are in a very tricky position with this.

Always remember that they don't have to host these discussions and the shit they must get for it must be constant. I'm grateful to them as ever.

Another woman of colour here wondering if the OP has told their other social media how racist they have just been? No I thought not.

The OP is continuously on 'other social media' complaining about MN, & indeed made a point of joining in the first place to garner screenshots.

They have numerous deletions, mostly for personal attacks but also for racist comments.

I've already said that I don't think the person behind this is in a very happy place right now, & I worry about her personal & professional wellbeing for various reasons, but I think enough is enough now. Surely?

That's only because you think being transgender as a subset.

We don't think trans women are a subset of women. We don't think they are a type of women.

Women can be tall, silly, dead, old, smelly, Ukrainian, cruel, mothers, CEOs and a million other things. But there's one thing we can't be. We can't be men.

And OP - you have been told that what you have said is racist - by women of colour like myself. You clearly have no understanding of why. I feel sorry for you. At some point the veil will slip from your eyes and you will regret how offensive you have been here. You are selling women down the river with this ideology and you’ve managed to inhale racist and bizarre ideas along the way and now you are running off demanding we be silenced? How dare you.

Stating that Black women are a subset of women is suggesting white is the default woman...this isn't some misunderstanding or even micro aggression. It is blatantly racist.

ASugarr, I suggest you just stop. Show your brother your love in ways that doesn't denigrate a third of the earth's humans. Validating your brother on public forums by offending thousands of people is not a healthy expression of support.

Wow. This really did go downhill. And quite apart from the racism and refusal to apologise for it, ASugarr says we shouldn't talk about trans subjects on MN on a thread she started to talk not about lesbians, but about trans issues

I really think you should step away from MN and social media for the sake of your MH.

Any attempt to silence mothers will be met by failure. We will always find places to talk. Twitter and Reddit with their misogyny and rape threats aren’t being shut down - and yet some activists want a group of mothers discussing safeguarding to be erased? Get in the sea. We will talk until change happens. In case you didn’t realise, women become more powerful when oppressed.

Four deletions in the last hour.

This generation is so woke, their reasoning is broken.
Reality is being bent, to allow them to reason an untruth, just so feelings don't get hurt.
The ultimate everyone gets to win, and loss is not allowed.

@blackwhiteandstripey

By that I mean... so many deletions and nothing further being done about it by MNHQ.

I reckon she’s been banned.

My brother was never a girl
I ask again, ASugarr, is your brother a cervix-haver? Only iirc that was a form of words you were ok with.

In service of lesbian visibility, I'm linking to www.lesbianmetoo.com/

Their mission is to redress the invisibility of lesbians' experiences in the #MeToo coverage.

Their mission statement.

#MeToo has been very successful in exposingthe prevalence of male sexual violence against women and girls.

But the experiences of lesbians are missing from these stories.

Lesbians are females who are same-sex attracted.

This website exists to give a space for lesbians to speak up. This website aims to collect direct lesbian experiences of male sexual violenceand harassmentagainst lesbians. This includes sexual violence and harassment against lesbians committed by males who identify or call themselves lesbians or women (transwomen).

We will publish stories about sexual harassment, assault, corrective rape, coercion, manipulation, cotton ceiling…

Sexual violence can happen everywhere: in the street, in the workplace, in LGBT / queer groups and spaces, in families, at school or university, on lesbian dating sites…

Perpetrators can be any males: bosses, friends, family members, teacher, lecturer, colleagues, schoolmates, strangers.

Whatever happened to you, whoever did it, if you are a female attracted to other females, wherever you are in the world, wherever you come from, we want to hear from you.

We believe you.

- LesbianMeToo

Good link purgatory

For Lesbian Visibility Week, I want to give a shout-out to Dr Jess Taylor.

Academic, psychologist, feminist, author, founder of VictimFocus and a lesbian.

She wrote the book Why Women are Blamed for Everything last year, which went down with misogynists like a cup of cold sick.

This year, in collaboration with other women, she founded an another support organisation called MOCRA, for women pregnant after being subjected to rape.

www.mocra-foundation.com/

She is amazing.

I ❤ Dr J Taylor

We don't think trans women are a subset of women. We don't think they are a type of women.

Women can be tall, silly, dead, old, smelly, Ukrainian, cruel, mothers, CEOs and a million other things. But there's one thing we can't be. We can't be men.

This.