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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbian Visibility Week

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Shizuku · 27/04/2021 11:40

Shout out to my fellow lesbians on this important week!

I will be wearing my lesbian pride badge right next to my trans pride badge for the whole week in all public spaces.

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NecessaryScene1 · 29/04/2021 21:55

Looks like I picked the wrong thread to quit amphetamines.

Shizuku · 29/04/2021 21:56

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Shizuku · 29/04/2021 21:57

@theThreeofWeevils

My head hurts... Stick an ice-cream cone on your forehead, *@blackwhiteandstripey*, filling first. Cool and soothing plus, hey presto, you are now a Zebracorn!

And FlowersFlowersFlowers for Lesbians here and everywhere. Stand your ground. Flowers

"And for Lesbians here and everywhere. Stand your ground."

Thank you - I will.

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GreyhoundG1rl · 29/04/2021 21:58

What do you get out of this nonsense, Shizuku? Does it amuse you?

NecessaryScene1 · 29/04/2021 21:58

Ooh, gatekeeping. Someone's thinks they're in charge of which gender identities are valid. Shock

Erkrie · 29/04/2021 21:59

I can hear your tiny little gears grinding from here. Do think hard, but don't hurt yourselves.

Lol. I think you need the oil can for yours. One can won't be enough.

NecessaryScene1 · 29/04/2021 21:59

I know what we get out of it :) Ever more visibility.

Remember everyone - listen to trans people.

Please.

theThreeofWeevils · 29/04/2021 22:00

Sorry, mate, but no. Female is NOT a gender identity. It is a biological descriptor.
'of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes.'
As a noun, it is a female animal or plant of whatever species.

Off to let the male, neutered cat in.

Erkrie · 29/04/2021 22:01

Remember everyone - listen to trans people.

Oh yes. The numbers who are listening have increased hugely. And more and more push back is happening as a result of that.

Keep on talking...GrinGrinGrin

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 29/04/2021 22:02

@NecessaryScene1

Ooh, gatekeeping. Someone's thinks they're in charge of which gender identities are valid. Shock
Noooooo 😱
RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 29/04/2021 22:03

@NecessaryScene1

Looks like I picked the wrong thread to quit amphetamines.
This was funny as well

Couldnt figure out which one to put first

Erkrie · 29/04/2021 22:03

Neither "woman" nor, "cis woman" nor "trans woman" are gender identities, but "female" is.

Female is not a gender identity. It describes the female sex.

You're welcome.

Shizuku · 29/04/2021 22:04

"when I was young the message was all about being true to yourself, standing up for what you believe in, finding your own authentic path, no matter what others thought of you, and not letting the opposition of others get you down or stop you achieving your goals. I mean, that message has problems too, but at least it stands a chance of building some resilience in the face of opposition."

That's the attitude of most of the trans woman I know.

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Shizuku · 29/04/2021 22:05

@Erkrie

Neither "woman" nor, "cis woman" nor "trans woman" are gender identities, but "female" is.

Female is not a gender identity. It describes the female sex.

You're welcome.

I'm afraid you'll have to take that up with the scientists - they don't believe you that female isn't a gender identity.
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blackwhiteandstripey · 29/04/2021 22:05

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AdHominemNonSequitur · 29/04/2021 22:06

How come you struggle with it so much?

AfternoonToffee · 29/04/2021 22:06

It does beg the question why, if everyone’s kinks are accepted and welcome under the Q umbrella, this weird little genital preference some of us have is not being embraced and celebrated alongside the dog-guys on chains and the adult babies?

Because it doesn't involve penises (penii?)

Letsgetreadytocrumble · 29/04/2021 22:07

I'm afraid you'll have to take that up with the scientists - they don't believe you that female isn't a gender identity.

First we had 'people' now we have 'The scientists' 😂

Whatwouldscullydo · 29/04/2021 22:07

Hang on someone else was trying to say that man and woman are gender terms.

So if female is the identity then what is man and woman?

This is getting confusing

Erkrie · 29/04/2021 22:07

I'm afraid you'll have to take that up with the scientists - they don't believe you that female isn't a gender identity.

Incorrect ☺️

Blibbyblobby · 29/04/2021 22:08

@Shizuku

I see you are struggling to understand. I'm afraid I am unable to boost you IQs, but let me give you a little clue.

Neither "woman" nor, "cis woman" nor "trans woman" are gender identities, but "female" is.

I can hear your tiny little gears grinding from here. Do think hard, but don't hurt yourselves.

STOP THE PRESS!!!

I used to think Woman was a sex class. Recently I learned it's a gender identify and I've been very careful to only use it in that sense but now you tell me that is wrong too Sad

I really want to learn and understand.

Can you please clarify, if "woman" , "cis woman" and "trans woman" are not gender identities what are they? What is it that all women have in common other than the name?

You've previously said you are a woman and specifically a trans woman - what does that mean in practical terms that makes you different from a cis* woman or any man?

It's obviously something pretty important and fundamental to how we treat people so it must be easy to describe in a way that even someone of my limited IQ will grasp.

  • my apologies again to anyone I offend. It's necessary to ask the question within the ideology and while I know how disgustingly offensive it is to imply woman are split into trans and cis, I hope you will bear with me again.
Erkrie · 29/04/2021 22:08

First we had 'people' now we have 'The scientists

These will be people that identify as scientists..

Fernlake · 29/04/2021 22:09

@NecessaryScene1

Speaking of Allison's case earlier, I hope to fucking God that it's filmed so I can see the judges ''surprise'' as the new definition of lesbian that actually includes everyone is explained to them.

Just in case anyone hadn't realised - the reason it's been rescheduled is to find a big enough timeslot.

It's been allocated 20 days. Four weeks!

The judges are going to be in for quite a ride. This isn't the brief intensive shock therapy, this the full immersive course.

I imagine that's why the Twitterati gender idealists are all getting frothy over the lesbian day of visibility.

What with the EHRC being unequivocal that sex is biological and gender is social, Allison's case coming up, which will lift the lid off all this underbelly of sexual orientation denial and maya forstarter just about to win her appeal, it's understandable.

Knowing that the shit is just about to hit the fan is bound to provoke.

Unreasonabubble · 29/04/2021 22:11

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/04/2021 22:12

Could I identify as a transwoman? I was born female with xx chromosomes, but feel like I'm in the wrong body and I'm actually a transwoman.

Does this work?

Don't ask them, no need. They wouldn't want to gatekeep. They aren't the arbiters of who can identify as what.

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